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Old 11-27-2018, 11:38 AM   #11
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Ack-fft. My bookshelves would explode, from weight and added thickness.
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Totally worth it.

It does illustrate the real challenge in our neck of the woods. I think in general we'd really love to see more hardcovers for most products. I just took a photo of a 5.5x8.5 or 6x9 hardcover, sewn binding, felt like 2.5mm boards, that was about 108 pages. Was not crazy. And the output of the process of making a hardcover is a lovely product.

But the economics are somewhat painful unless you can really print a lot of them.

I'm looking into getting our theoretical book blocks printed and then having a select few bound into hardcover, with the rest in softcover. Thomson-Shore offered me that at one time or another, so presumably it's a thing. Since the printer I used for Dragon Heresy ONLY makes sewn books (softcover or hardcover), I think this should be a viable option, should such a thing theoretically come up.
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:46 PM   #12
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It does illustrate the real challenge in our neck of the woods.
Publishers can never make everyone happy.

Do what you feel is best.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:05 PM   #13
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Publishers can never make everyone happy.

Do what you feel is best.
Sure! But when the CEO of SJG decides to expound upon their thoughts, one attempts to draw them out to see if insights personal, institutional, and industrial can be gleaned.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:10 PM   #14
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Sure! But when the CEO of SJG decides to expound upon their thoughts, one attempts to draw them out to see if insights personal, institutional, and industrial can be gleaned.
Oh, I'm a moron when it comes to books. I always want a hardcover and am happy to pay extra for it. Never base your book soft/hard decisions on my opinions.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:32 PM   #15
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I hate giant books. Too tough to easily read without sitting them down.
Two of my fav rpg books would be Discworld 2nd ed and Eclipse Phase. Go figure! :)
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:50 PM   #16
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I'm not a big adventure buyer so take this with a grain of salt, but my big requirements for adventure books that I'm actually going to use is a lay-flat binding of some sort, and anything I am likely to need to hand out to players should be separate (this includes sample characters, art, and maps). Unfortunately, the economical options for doing that are generally options that are annoying to put on a shelf, such as multiple saddle-stitched pamphlets or something larger and wire-bound.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:51 PM   #17
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I love hardcovers, but in this case I'd prefer a nicely made softcover because it will better match the rest of the product line. A lay-flat softcover would be wonderful.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:14 PM   #18
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As long as it's in pdf, you've got me at the pdf level. Forever.


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I love hardcovers, but in this case I'd prefer a nicely made softcover because it will better match the rest of the product line. A lay-flat softcover would be wonderful.
I'm looking into this. I like the idea. The Hall of Judgment books were straight-up perfect bound I think, but I can look at PUR and PUR-lay-flat options. If I theoretically do what I theoretically want to do, the books will be sewn anyway, which opens up options or might lay flat just 'cause.
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I'm looking into this. I like the idea. The Hall of Judgment books were straight-up perfect bound I think, but I can look at PUR and PUR-lay-flat options. If I theoretically do what I theoretically want to do, the books will be sewn anyway, which opens up options or might lay flat just 'cause.
Nice! I'm glad to hear you're looking into various methods of getting sofcovers to lay flat. I remember the first time I bought an O'Reilly book that used RepKover lay-flat binding, and was blown away. Immediately I thought of the RPG market, and how nice it'd be if lay-flat was the standard there.
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