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Old 09-05-2014, 01:26 PM   #41
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Delta Operator Intelligence Op Loadout
$35,071, 24.03 lbs.

On person:
$16,095, 10.38 lbs.
• Summer Clothes with Undercover Clothing modification (+4 CF, +1 to Holdout) (p. HT63-64) [Torso, Limbs]. $300, 1 lb.*
• Belt (p. HT31) [Torso]. $50, 0.2 lbs.*
• Push Knife disguised as belt buckle (p. HT197), Holdout +4, [Belt]. $30, 0.5 lbs.*
• Sneakers with Disguised Compartments (+4 Holdout for things built-in, +2 Holdout for removable things) (p. HT68, ???) [Feet]. DR 1*. $440, 2 lbs.*
• Expensive Cellular Beacon, Satellite (p. HT210) [R Sneaker]. $6,000, 0.66 lbs.
• Harris RF-7800S Secure Personal Radio; an Expensive, Rugged Small Radio (with base Weight 1 lbs., base Cost $500 and base range 7.5 miles) With ECCM, GPS and Secure Encryption (pp. HT38-39, 211) [L Sneaker]. Includes rechargable S battery. $2,500, 0.66 lbs.
• Notebook, Pencil, and Chalk (p. HT17) [Clothing]. $2, 0.1 lbs.*
• Duct Tape (p. HT26) [Clothing]. 1,88"x10-yard. $1, 0.1 lbs.*
• 4x Pack of Marlboros (p. HT31) [Clothing]. $22, 0.2 lbs.*
• 2x Zippo Cigarette Lighters with Styling +2 (pp. HT10, HT57) [Clothing]. $120, 0.2 lbs.*
• Covert Universal Handcuff Key (???) [Clothing]. $5, neg.*
• Cellular Phone With Digital Camera (p. HT39) [Clothing]. Includes rechargeable S battery. $200, 0.5 lb.*
• PKI Directional Microphone Within a Cigarette Box Much smaller than High-Tech's example, even if made Expensive, probably has reduced capability (p. HT50), Holdout +1, [Clothing]. $1,600, 0.3 lbs.
• Rugged, Expensive Ear Microphone System (pp. HT39) [Ears]. Includes T battery. $2,000, 0.17 lbs.
• Carl Zeiss MiniQuick 5x10 T Monocular (p. HT47), Holdout +2, [Clothing]. $200, 0.05 lbs.*
• Carl Zeiss Mono 6x18 T Monocular (p. HT47), Holdout +1, [Clothing]. $330, 0.13 lbs.*
• Gadget Wristwatch With Compass, Thermometer and Personal Cellular Beacon (p. HT32, HT210) [Wrist]. Includes T battery. $500, 0.1 lbs.*
• Concealed Carry Clothing briefs (p. TS73) [Groin]. $60, 0.5 lbs.*
• Emerson Super CQC-8 in stonewashed satin; Very Fine Rugged Tactical Folding Knife with Styling +1 (p. HT198) [CCW Briefs]. $310, 0.5 lbs.*
• Rugged Undercover Holster (p. HT154) [CCW Briefs]. $125, 1 lbs.*
• Glock 26 pistol (p. HT101) [Holster]. Includes 1 10-rd magazine with 124 grain Federal Tactical JHP (LE9T1) 9x19mm ammunition. $610, 1.6 lbs.*

In hidden compartment on scooter:
$19,216, 15.06 lbs.
• Waist Pack (p. HT54) [Scooter]. Carries 10 lbs. $10, 0.5 lbs.*
• Expensive Personal Basics (p. B288) [Waist Bag]. $10, 0.66 lbs.*
• Expensive Multi-Tool (p. HT26) [Waist Pack]. $100, 0.5 lbs.*
• Harris lithium-ion rechargable S battery for radio (p. HT13) [Waist Pack]. $50, 0.33 lbs.
• Zeiss Victory Compact 8x20 T Binoculars (p. HT47), Holdout 0, [Waist Pack]. $750, 0.5 lbs.*
• Small Tactical Light (p. HT52) [Waist Pack]. Includes 2x XS batteries. $100, 0.25 lb.
• 2x Extra-Small Batteries (p. HT13) [Waist Pack]. $1, 0.2 lbs.
• Rugged Small Computer With Rugged Portable Terminal (p. HT20, 21) [Waist Pack]. Complexity 2. Includes rechargeable 2x XS batteries. $500, 0.84 lbs.
• 2x XS Rechargeable Batteries (p. HT13) [Waist Pack]. $5, 0.2 lbs.
• Micro-Camcorder (p. HT43) [Waist Pack]. Includes integral rechargeable battery. $200, 0.25 lb.
• Rugged Digital Storage Device (p. HT22) [Waist Pack]. 16 GB. Waterproof, shock-resistant, durable. $60, neg.
• Expensive Laser Mike (p. HT208) [Waist Pack]. $10,000, 1.33 lbs.
• Rechargable S battery (p. HT13) [Waist Pack] $50, 0.33 lbs.
• Expensive, Rugged Headphones (p. HT41) [Waist Pack]. $200, 0.66 lbs.
• 2x Laser Pinhead Mike (p. HT208) [Waist Pack). $800, neg.
• x10 Audio Bug (p. HT208) [Waist Pack]. $1,000, 0.1 lbs.
• 2x Miniature Video Bug built into a lighter and cigarette pack (pp. HT209-210) [Waist Pack]. $2,000, 0.1 lbs.
• Subminiature Video Bug (p. HT210) [Waist Pack]. $1,500, neg.
• Expensive, Rugged A/V Transceiver (p. HT209) [Waist Pack]. Includes 4 S batteries. $400, 2 lbs.
• 4x S Rechargable Batteries (p. HT13) [Waist Pack]. $200, 1.33 lbs.

• Expensive Shoulder Rig (p. TS73) [Scooter]. $120, 0.66 lbs.*
• Glock 18c pistol with Micro-Reflex Sight (p. HT101, TS74, TS76) [Shoulder Rig]. Slightly shortened grip to use Glock 19 magazines. Includes 15-rd magazine with 124 grain Federal Tactical JHP (LE9T1) 9x19mm ammunition. $1,040, 2.1 lbs.*
• 2x 31-rd magazine with 124 grain Federal Tactical JHP (LE9T1) 9x19mm ammunition (pp. HT 101, HT155, HT166) [Shoulder Rig]. $120, 2.2 lbs.*

The Summer Clothing in this case are a pair of thin skintight jeans and a form-fitting cotton t-shirt. The light and form-fitting outfit imposes a general -2 Holdout penalty for his weapons, but the CCW clothing counteracts that and the special tailoring results in a +1 to Holdout in total.

That means that his gun and tactical folder are both concealed at Holdout +1. His smaller monocular is concealed at Holdout +3 and his larger monocular and the directional microphone at Holdout +2. The satellite beacon and the radio are concealed at Holdout +3 (Bulk -1, Holdout +4) installed in his sneakers; and the Push Knife disguised as his belt buckle and the personal beacon concealed in his gadget watch are both concealed at Holdout +4.

*Personally acquired and owned. Spent $5,325 of his own money on his loadout.
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:00 PM   #42
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Default Re: [Loadout] Delta Operator on an intelligence op

Even super secret spooky squirrel operatives often get issued well-used gear made to over-engineered specifications by the lowest bidder.
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:11 PM   #43
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Even super secret spooky squirrel operatives often get issued well-used gear made to over-engineered specifications by the lowest bidder.
I do not doubt it at all.

What does that mean in terms of the loadout? Do you have specific real-world brands that he ought to be carrying instead of the rather generic descriptions from High-Tech?

I am very much looking for notes on what might be issued or bought with funds ear-marked for specific acquisitions. Also, what might be practical to privately buy.

Note, however, that this operative was assuredly issued a lot of other gear, but chose to leave it at a military base. He has plate carriers, a carbine, nifty NVG units and maybe even forward observer gear, but he's not able to nor does he want to carry those for intelligence operations with Iraqi MoI National Criminal Intelligence Directorade and its Rapid Response Brigade units.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:11 PM   #44
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He should have some money

A handcuff key would also be good to try to stash on his person

Plastic zip ties are often used for field expedient scooter repairs and would be logically found with any scooter. Particularly an old and ratty looking one like this guy is going for. Can also be used to restrain people.

If he has a 2 stroke scooter he would surely carry a container of 2 stroke oil
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:27 PM   #45
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He should have some money
Ideally also some gold to use as a bribe, to people who don't trust whatever one currency he's carrying (money is just paper, gold stays valuable). And in a sufficiently failed state, carrying as a tertiary "bribe item" some clearly labelled (i.e. in English and Arabic and perhaps also French) antibiotics could be good too. I just don't know if Iraq in 2011 qualifies as "a sufficiently failed state".
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:23 PM   #46
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Ideally also some gold to use as a bribe, to people who don't trust whatever one currency he's carrying (money is just paper, gold stays valuable). And in a sufficiently failed state, carrying as a tertiary "bribe item" some clearly labelled (i.e. in English and Arabic and perhaps also French) antibiotics could be good too. I just don't know if Iraq in 2011 qualifies as "a sufficiently failed state".
Gold is too heavy, and everyone takes dollars - even places like Somalia recognize the portability and value of dollars. I read a while ago that operators in the sandbox would keep a couple hundred in a fatigue pocket.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:22 PM   #47
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Gold is too heavy, and everyone takes dollars - even places like Somalia recognize the portability and value of dollars. I read a while ago that operators in the sandbox would keep a couple hundred in a fatigue pocket.
In what way is gold heavy? How much does $2000 worth of gold weigh?
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:31 PM   #48
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In what way is gold heavy? How much does $2000 worth of gold weigh?
About 2 imperial ounces, more than the similar value in bills. Plus, not everyone knows what to do with gold, and it is hard to divide what gold you have into convenient lesser amounts, and it means arguing over the value of the gold, et cetera, et cetera. Seriously, gold is great for large transactions between knowledgeable and reasonably influential people. It's not so great for buying a bus ticket.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:20 PM   #49
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He should have some money
He's not usually in a position where he interacts directly with sources. That's a job for Iraqi MoI National Criminal Intelligence Directorade officers. He's there mainly for show, but ostensibly to provide technical assistance to them with fancy modern spy-stuff.

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A handcuff key would also be good to try to stash on his person
Yes, that's a good point.

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Plastic zip ties are often used for field expedient scooter repairs and would be logically found with any scooter. Particularly an old and ratty looking one like this guy is going for. Can also be used to restrain people.
I suppose, but any time an operation results in people being restrained, he'd be behind around 12-27 Iraqi special operators that actually carry out the arrest.

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If he has a 2 stroke scooter he would surely carry a container of 2 stroke oil
Another good point.
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Old 09-06-2014, 02:32 AM   #50
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About 2 imperial ounces, more than the similar value in bills. Plus, not everyone knows what to do with gold, and it is hard to divide what gold you have into convenient lesser amounts, and it means arguing over the value of the gold, et cetera, et cetera. Seriously, gold is great for large transactions between knowledgeable and reasonably influential people. It's not so great for buying a bus ticket.
He's not going to use it for buying a bus ticket. He's going to use it when the fecal matter hits the fan - if a genuine emergency arises and he decides to try bribing his way out. Gold is shiny. Also, we westerners might underestimate the stark appeal that the golden shiny has to people whose recent forefathers were desert nomads.
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