6e Car Wars, what do you want to see - Page 13

Mayor of Midville · 05-10-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kjamma4

My favorite:

http://www.cwspark.org/downloads/vehicles/

Thanks for the link. I would like to have something for my iphone as well though.

Traska · 05-11-2012, 08:59 AM

I have a very simple list of desires for CW6e:

1- Vehicle design rules, the same rules used for the published material stock vehicles, full stop.
2- Sourcebooks. CWCore would contain the basic rules, a selection of vehicles, and counters and such. CWDesign would contain the design rules, CWAir would contain the aircraft rules and sample vehicles, CWSea would contain boats, and CW:RPG would be the roleplaying side of it, all of it native to CW rules and not GURPS. Getting into a minivan shouldn't be an occasion to break out conversion rules.
3- Software... specifically, I want to be able to play online. A program made by (or commissioned by) SJG that allows for online tabletopping. See, the RPG world is a lot thinner these days, and not everyone can find a local group. I'm in PA, I've got friends in KY that I would love to play Car Wars with, but honestly, the commute is murder. Also, vehicle design software that you don't need a specific OS (or iOS) for.
4- Minis in addition to (or instead of) cardboard. I miss painting those little guys.
5- Setting books. Saw the idea earlier, but I like the idea of maybe tying the CW:RPG into the Infinite Worlds. Dealing with Nazis on the highway in a world where half the US was conquered by the Reich would be awesome. Or a world where the confederacy didn't fall (or rose again).

That's just about it, like I said, simple list. ::Grin::

Jeffr0 · 05-11-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Traska

2- Sourcebooks. CWCore would contain the basic rules, a selection of vehicles, and counters and such. CWDesign would contain the design rules, CWAir would contain the aircraft rules and sample vehicles, CWSea would contain boats, and CW:RPG would be the roleplaying side of it, all of it native to CW rules and not GURPS. Getting into a minivan shouldn't be an occasion to break out conversion rules.

Ahhh.

If they could make a set of booklets the same size as the original ADQ's and Vehicle Guides, that would be awesome.

kjamma4 · 05-11-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffr0

Ahhh.

If they could make a set of booklets the same size as the original ADQ's and Vehicle Guides, that would be awesome.

Yes - it worked really well for Crimson Skies.

Pacey · 05-11-2012, 10:57 AM

What would I like to see most for a new Car Wars?

- it being released to the public before I'm old and grey!!

kjamma4 · 05-11-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacey

What would I like to see most for a new Car Wars?

- it being released to the public before I'm old and grey!!

Too late !!!!

ammulder · 05-11-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayor of Midville

Thanks for the link. I would like to have something for my iphone as well though.

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Originally Posted by Traska

I have a very simple list of desires for CW6e:
...
Also, vehicle design software that you don't need a specific OS (or iOS) for.

I put together a Web-based designer a while back:

http://carwarsdesigner.appspot.com/

It's not really built for the iPhone (I had a mouse in mind), but in a pinch you could use it in Safari on the phone. Granted, an iOS-specific version would be nicer. :)

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Originally Posted by kjamma4

What is needed is a design program that will actually print out the schematic of your vehicle (I like the format used in the Combat Showcase).

If you click the "Record Sheet" link in the software above, you'll get a PDF including a walkaround and schematic. The diagram is not super-sophisticated, and FWIW I'd be interested in feedback on how to improve it. Here are a couple examples from the stock cars built in the app:

Scorcher
Serbia

By the way, be patient the first time you go in -- it's running on a free hosting service so it takes a bit to spin up, but then it should work OK.

Turhan's Bey Company · 05-11-2012, 01:03 PM

What I want:

Vehicle design rules. Wouldn't be Car Wars without it.
Heavier maps and counters. I don't want to have to restart a yet another game if somebody sneezes too close to the board.
Phased movement with a larger number of phases. I like ten and could accept five. Three is too few.
Wheeled civilian ground vehicles only. Motorcycles, cars, and trucks; no aircraft, no boats, no tanks, no hovercraft.
I'd like to see maneuver emphasized over weapons and targeting technology. At a certain $ level, it seemed like the thing to do was to build what was essentially a pillbox on wheels and load it up with laser-guided weapons. That's boring.

Those are the essential points. There are other bits of cleanup and upgrading they could do. For example, I'm interested in Matchbox/Hot Wheels-scale, but that's a secondary concern.

Chris Goodwin · 05-11-2012, 01:12 PM

I'm starting to think four phases with 5e style movement. One of the main advantages to this is that you can use all of the 1" Car Wars counters and maps, and it's easy to put 1/4" marks on turning keys. At that scale, movement is 1/4" per phase per 10mph. Drawback: 1/8" per phase per 5mph.

For minis, scaling all the way up to one car length equals 4 inches has all of the playfield size problems of 3 inches, but there's a middle ground: one car length to 2 inches. Potential problem there being lack of existing minis. Not insurmountable, though. This also brings us to 1/4" per phase per 5mph.

HarbingerX · 05-11-2012, 01:39 PM

I'm going to repeat myself, with some tweaks.

Here's what I'd like to see:
- 5e mechanics but flexible on the phases/turn
- Make everyone happy by having rules for 3/5/10 phases per turn. I don't think very much has to change for each phasing. I think the default should be 3-segment, but a survey will answer that question.
- Multiple 'tech-levels' of weapon & gear choices. This could be divided by year of availability in future timeline. This is so I can ignore the arms-race craziness.
- 1e weapons / gear
- Dueltrack!
- 2e basic weapons / gear
- 2e advanced weapons / gear (ie. alphabet soup of ammo and gazillion armors)
- Heavy stock so stuff doesn't blow away
- 1.5x scale. I think this is really the best option. Offer extras for 1x scale and 3x scale.
- high production quality road segments
- arena in the box with 3d ramps
- 3d cars? Something cool. Micro-machine minis would be awesome
- lots and lots of vehicle designs (get community help!)
- lots and lots of scenarios for pick up and play
- iOS, Android and online apps for vehicle design and status tracking
- Pocket Cars Wars/Truck Stop/Sunday Driver for KS supporters
- print-and-play PDF counter and road templates (perhaps for KS only?)

05-11-2012, 08:59 AM	#122
Traska Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: 6e Car Wars, what do you want to see I have a very simple list of desires for CW6e: 1- Vehicle design rules, the same rules used for the published material stock vehicles, full stop. 2- Sourcebooks. CWCore would contain the basic rules, a selection of vehicles, and counters and such. CWDesign would contain the design rules, CWAir would contain the aircraft rules and sample vehicles, CWSea would contain boats, and CW:RPG would be the roleplaying side of it, all of it native to CW rules and not GURPS. Getting into a minivan shouldn't be an occasion to break out conversion rules. 3- Software... specifically, I want to be able to play online. A program made by (or commissioned by) SJG that allows for online tabletopping. See, the RPG world is a lot thinner these days, and not everyone can find a local group. I'm in PA, I've got friends in KY that I would love to play Car Wars with, but honestly, the commute is murder. Also, vehicle design software that you don't need a specific OS (or iOS) for. 4- Minis in addition to (or instead of) cardboard. I miss painting those little guys. 5- Setting books. Saw the idea earlier, but I like the idea of maybe tying the CW:RPG into the Infinite Worlds. Dealing with Nazis on the highway in a world where half the US was conquered by the Reich would be awesome. Or a world where the confederacy didn't fall (or rose again). That's just about it, like I said, simple list. ::Grin::

05-11-2012, 10:57 AM	#125
Pacey Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Leeds, England	Re: 6e Car Wars, what do you want to see What would I like to see most for a new Car Wars? - it being released to the public before I'm old and grey!!

05-11-2012, 01:03 PM	#128
Turhan's Bey Company Aluminated Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East of the moon, west of the stars, close to buses and shopping	Re: 6e Car Wars, what do you want to see What I want: Vehicle design rules. Wouldn't be Car Wars without it. Heavier maps and counters. I don't want to have to restart a yet another game if somebody sneezes too close to the board. Phased movement with a larger number of phases. I like ten and could accept five. Three is too few. Wheeled civilian ground vehicles only. Motorcycles, cars, and trucks; no aircraft, no boats, no tanks, no hovercraft. I'd like to see maneuver emphasized over weapons and targeting technology. At a certain $ level, it seemed like the thing to do was to build what was essentially a pillbox on wheels and load it up with laser-guided weapons. That's boring. Those are the essential points. There are other bits of cleanup and upgrading they could do. For example, I'm interested in Matchbox/Hot Wheels-scale, but that's a secondary concern. __________________ I've been making pointlessly shiny things, and I've got some gaming-related stuff as well as 3d printing designs. Buy my Warehouse 23 stuff, dammit!

05-11-2012, 01:12 PM	#129
Chris Goodwin Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon, USA	Re: 6e Car Wars, what do you want to see I'm starting to think four phases with 5e style movement. One of the main advantages to this is that you can use all of the 1" Car Wars counters and maps, and it's easy to put 1/4" marks on turning keys. At that scale, movement is 1/4" per phase per 10mph. Drawback: 1/8" per phase per 5mph. For minis, scaling all the way up to one car length equals 4 inches has all of the playfield size problems of 3 inches, but there's a middle ground: one car length to 2 inches. Potential problem there being lack of existing minis. Not insurmountable, though. This also brings us to 1/4" per phase per 5mph. __________________ Chris Goodwin I've started a subreddit for discussion of INWO and Illuminati. Check it out!

05-11-2012, 01:39 PM	#130
HarbingerX Join Date: May 2012	Re: 6e Car Wars, what do you want to see I'm going to repeat myself, with some tweaks. Here's what I'd like to see: - 5e mechanics but flexible on the phases/turn - Make everyone happy by having rules for 3/5/10 phases per turn. I don't think very much has to change for each phasing. I think the default should be 3-segment, but a survey will answer that question. - Multiple 'tech-levels' of weapon & gear choices. This could be divided by year of availability in future timeline. This is so I can ignore the arms-race craziness. - 1e weapons / gear - Dueltrack! - 2e basic weapons / gear - 2e advanced weapons / gear (ie. alphabet soup of ammo and gazillion armors) - Heavy stock so stuff doesn't blow away - 1.5x scale. I think this is really the best option. Offer extras for 1x scale and 3x scale. - high production quality road segments - arena in the box with 3d ramps - 3d cars? Something cool. Micro-machine minis would be awesome - lots and lots of vehicle designs (get community help!) - lots and lots of scenarios for pick up and play - iOS, Android and online apps for vehicle design and status tracking - Pocket Cars Wars/Truck Stop/Sunday Driver for KS supporters - print-and-play PDF counter and road templates (perhaps for KS only?)