Pyramid #3/60: Dungeon Fantasy III - Page 2

Humabout · 10-25-2013, 10:54 PM

I'll start with, "I LOVE IMBUEMENTS!" and continue that I found Kromm's intro to the beastmaster a really fun and interesting read. More people need to read that discourse on the concepts behind Dungeon Fantasy. Then I'll say that I really need to give the issue a proper reading, so I can better comment.

Kuroshima · 10-26-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Refplace

Mystic Power Ups I liked mostly.
Stabilized shot doesnt seem to fit the description, instead it sounds more suitable for Far Shot or Guided Weapon.
The rest of the article I liked, especially Resonant gear which gives us a new class of magic items. Weapons of Magic are nice, especially since they include how they were built.
The new Techniques are nice, though it took me a bit to figure out there probably buying off a penalty so you dont have an additional roll, instead I think they use the starting skill.

On stabilized shot, I did my best, but it wasn't easy finding suitable special effects.
On the new techniques, they modify certain Imbuement Skills, and you need no extra rolls. Same as the ones in Dungeon Fantasy 11: Power-Ups, so I don't really see what confuses you. Can you elaborate please?

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Originally Posted by chandley

Love having more options for Mystic Knights, one of my favorite classes in DF.

Any favorites? Any you specially dislike?

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Originally Posted by Humabout

I'll start with, "I LOVE IMBUEMENTS!" and continue that I found Kromm's intro to the beastmaster a really fun and interesting read. More people need to read that discourse on the concepts behind Dungeon Fantasy. Then I'll say that I really need to give the issue a proper reading, so I can better comment.

Glad Imbuements are popular!

I wish PK had managed to squeeze Mighty Blow in. I assume the issue was overfilled, though, and not having written it, I could not in good conscience include it in my article. I missed Murphy's Rules in this issue, but I understand that it was probably first in the chopping block...

Peter V. Dell'Orto · 10-26-2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Refplace

Its a Trap! was a lot more interesting then I would have thought.
A good list and set of tables to work with but even better was the explanations and lists of examples.

I'm really curious about this one. But I already have my own random trap tables that I made up for my own game, so I'm not sure I need it. How much detail does it go in to, and what do the tables generate?

Humabout · 10-26-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter V. Dell'Orto

I'm really curious about this one. But I already have my own random trap tables that I made up for my own game, so I'm not sure I need it. How much detail does it go in to, and what do the tables generate?

Enough that glossing over it really didn't give enough info to judge or fully grok it. That's first on my list for the proper read-through. DF needs traps!

Refplace · 10-26-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuroshima

On stabilized shot, I did my best, but it wasn't easy finding suitable special effects.
On the new techniques, they modify certain Imbuement Skills, and you need no extra rolls. Same as the ones in Dungeon Fantasy 11: Power-Ups, so I don't really see what confuses you. Can you elaborate please?

Just glanced at DF 11 and I see what you mean.
I did figure it out, just took a bit as I am not used to the format as I dont actually play or run DF.

chandley · 10-26-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuroshima

Any favorites? Any you specially dislike?

Glad Imbuements are popular!

The Imbued Souls, Eldritch Tether, and the new imbuement skills, in roughly that order. Also, it may sound silly given its not exactly "new", but including Weapon Master and making power items explicitly allowed is nice, from a "see, it is there in the template" point of view. I doubt anyone actually disallowed either, but it is a nice validation.

Unrelated: A hidden gem in the traps! Combustion potions! Hot (heh) damn, gotta get some of those!

Christopher R. Rice · 10-26-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Refplace

Its a Trap! was a lot more interesting then I would have thought.
A good list and set of tables to work with but even better was the explanations and lists of examples.

I tried to make it as useful as possible to other games, but still very much for Dungeon Fantasy. Thank you for the feedback!

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Originally Posted by Langy

Oh yeah; I read through both of those and thought they were awesome, though High-Tech Dungeon Crawl wasn't exactly useful so much as it was interesting and fun.

Thank you. :-)

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Originally Posted by Peter V. Dell'Orto

I'm really curious about this one. But I already have my own random trap tables that I made up for my own game, so I'm not sure I need it. How much detail does it go in to, and what do the tables generate?

A lot. I wrote a ton more, but had to cut it. Your own version might work better for you games - but I think mine isn't too shabby either. :-)

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Originally Posted by chandley

Unrelated: A hidden gem in the traps! Combustion potions! Hot (heh) damn, gotta get some of those!

I put niggly-bits into everything I do. I put some doozy's in previous articles that haven't even been found, or if they have, no one has said anything. ;-)

Peter V. Dell'Orto · 10-26-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Humabout

Enough that glossing over it really didn't give enough info to judge or fully grok it. That's first on my list for the proper read-through. DF needs traps!

Yes, and my DF game already has traps, and I have a system for randomly or not-randomly generating traps. I'm trying to find out enough information to know if this will be useful to me - right now, it just sounds like someone else's take on what I've got down as a fully solved need. :)

Christopher R. Rice · 10-26-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter V. Dell'Orto

Yes, and my DF game already has traps, and I have a system for randomly or not-randomly generating traps. I'm trying to find out enough information to know if this will be useful to me - right now, it just sounds like someone else's take on what I've got down as a fully solved need. :)

Hey, Peter, check your mail. :-)

Langy · 10-26-2013, 10:37 AM

Well, it's got 5 trap types (Alchemical, Poison, Mechanical, Magic, and Tricks), each with their own Detection and Disarm skills, 6 different trigger mechanisms, 7 trap qualities, 4 types of 'numbers of shots', 4 rearmament options, and a 'stealable' option.

There are 12 specific types of alchemical traps, 6 poison traps, 5 mechanical traps (with a lot of subtypes), 12 types of magical traps (with some subtypes) and 3 kinds of 'tricks'.

It's pretty extensive and awesome. It just needs something to help automate it!

What kind of stuff was left out? It seems like a pretty full article already!

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10-26-2013, 10:37 AM	#20
Langy Join Date: May 2008 Location: CA	Re: Pyramid #3/60: Dungeon Fantasy III Well, it's got 5 trap types (Alchemical, Poison, Mechanical, Magic, and Tricks), each with their own Detection and Disarm skills, 6 different trigger mechanisms, 7 trap qualities, 4 types of 'numbers of shots', 4 rearmament options, and a 'stealable' option. There are 12 specific types of alchemical traps, 6 poison traps, 5 mechanical traps (with a lot of subtypes), 12 types of magical traps (with some subtypes) and 3 kinds of 'tricks'. It's pretty extensive and awesome. It just needs something to help automate it! What kind of stuff was left out? It seems like a pretty full article already!