09-02-2017, 11:33 PM | #11 | |
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Re: striking/lifting ST and weapons
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Do note that Lifting ST and Striking ST are both exotic advantages, and are thus restricted to racial templates in most games. And even the not-at-all-realistic Dungeon Fantasy series allows only up to Lifting ST 3 or Striking ST 2 outside of racial templates (or power-ups that effectively treat Striking ST as a limited-accessibility damage bonus and thus reflect the situation and not the character's muscles).
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09-03-2017, 01:02 AM | #12 |
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Re: striking/lifting ST and weapons
I'm fond of using a sword that brings me to Extra Heavy Encumbrance and a Hideaway/Payload scabbard so that it's weightless when not drawn. Very videogamey, that one.
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09-03-2017, 01:17 AM | #13 | |
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09-03-2017, 02:03 AM | #14 | |
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But RAW is RAW.
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09-03-2017, 04:35 PM | #15 | |
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I like this idea. It's not exactly unfair if someone can wield a weapon too heavy for them to lift (where are they going to go with it?). It's worse than an Innate Attack with Gadget and Temporary Disad: Sessile. Mind, it is better with specifically thrown weapons because you can get it around from place to place... if slow and tiring. |
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09-06-2017, 12:22 AM | #16 | |
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Ultimately though I think Lifting ST as it stands in the system just isn't a very relevant limiting factor for melee weapon use. And in areas of weapon use were it is used (e.g drawing a bow) are a different enough application of ST from wielding melee weapon to warrant the switch. A ST10 chap has a one handed lift of 40lb. A broadsword (in the hand) weighs 2lb* and has a MinST10 Using the scaling rules in LTC2 he could still easily pick up a SM3 up-scaled version as it would weigh 25lbs, well within his one handed lift. But it's MinST stat would be 35 he'd wield it at -25! Basically MinST and one handed lift (or two handed lift) from BL don't seem to relate to each other much at all. And really picking a weight up (especially as defined by the BL rules) and wielding a weapon effectively are very different things. *2/3rds of 3lb, as per the optional rules Last edited by Tomsdad; 09-07-2017 at 01:08 AM. |
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09-06-2017, 04:36 AM | #17 | |
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However, I would accept that if your Lifting ST isn't high enough, that (as maybe a realistic optional rule) you could add 1 to fatigue loss from encumbrance or double the weapon's weight only for checking fatigue loss. But when it comes to realistic characters, the difference between Lifting and Striking ST is at max three levels that the amount probably isn't worth the complication. |
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11-03-2017, 02:21 PM | #18 |
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Using lifting st for non muscle powered weapons like firearms makes sense to a degree, but what if you are using something really big. Like, a cannon? say a character has 20 ST and another 20 striking ST, would it make sense for them to be able to fire a cannon with a ST requirment of 30? they can lift its weight just from the 20 ST but don't have enough to fire it without the striking ST.
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11-04-2017, 01:04 PM | #19 | |
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11-06-2017, 01:46 AM | #20 | |
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