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08-04-2019, 09:31 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Spear Thrower
Greetings Again,
I recently made some figures for my continued experiments with the Death Test and created a hero who had Thrown Weapons, Pole Arms, and Spear Thrower for talents. The theory was that he'd be a javelineer. He was very effective and that made me ask some questions. In Advanced Combat, it states that the spear thrower, "is considered a missile weapon for computing adjDex." Adding two hits to the damage of the spear or javelin is straightforward and clear. As is its usefulness as a club. Why bring missile weapons into this? 1) What does, "is considered a missile weapon for computing adjDex," mean? 2) Does the spear thrower change the javelin or spear into a missile weapon? 3) If this is the case, and my hero picked up the Missile Weapons feat, would Thrown Weapons stack with it, giving him adjDex +5? Thanks once again for your thoughtful answers. -Carl |
08-04-2019, 09:50 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Re: Spear Thrower
It means you use the range rules for missile weapons when computing to-hit penalties for a spear thrower. That's it. I don't think there is any reasonable case to be made that it lets you stack the bonuses for thrown weapons and missile weapons talents.
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08-04-2019, 10:09 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Spear Thrower
1) What larsdangly said
2) No, it only uses the Missile Weapon range adjustments (like the boomerang) 3) You can make a case that if you have Thrown Weapons you get the +2DX when throwing a spear or javelin. But, definitely Missile Weapon Talents do not stack. (They never stack with Thrown Weapons). I would suggest you test the various options and see which makes your contests more playable and which make them less fun/more overpowered.
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08-06-2019, 02:45 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Re: Spear Thrower
Here's a tiny related question if anyone knows the answer...
When adding +2 damage to a spear flung with a spear thrower, are we to add the +2 to the spear's one-handed damage (1d) or two-handed damage (1d+1)?
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08-06-2019, 10:47 AM | #5 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Spear Thrower
I would say all thrown spears should use the one-handed damage, as I don't know of a way (in reality) to use two hands to throw a spear harder.
(Though on the other hand... a person can involve their other hand/arm in giving more thrust to the throwing hand, by moving that arm and shoulder/torso in the opposite direction during the throw. But I don't know how much having a shield on the left arm/hand would or would not interfere with that - maybe it wouldn't, so back to my first answer.) Last edited by Skarg; 08-06-2019 at 10:52 AM. |
08-06-2019, 11:20 AM | #6 |
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Durham, NC
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Re: Spear Thrower
I agree with Skarg:
Spear thrown by Spear thrower is always a one handed spear. And I agree it only makes sense that the spear without the spear thrower is also thrown with one hand. But I do find it odd that the "Spear (2 hands)" listing in the weapons table has an * asterisks indicating it may be thrown. If a player with no other weapon/shield in hand insisted on getting 1+1 damage with his thrown spear I would allow it. I would not allow it with a Spear Thrower. |
08-06-2019, 12:43 PM | #7 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lakeville, MN
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Re: Spear Thrower
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That's a link to a defensive lacrosse stick, which would be the position I'd expect to see with a two-handed spear thrower. That being said, despite no small amount of looking, I can find zero images of a spear-thrower actually being used with two hands, though quite a lot of one-handed ones. Hmm. That's not what I'd have thought, but there we go.
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