Does Fit add to Bleeding rolls?

[aesir23]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Good cardio fitness is exceptionally useful for stopping bleeding. To abridge a long, complicated subject: cardio fitness makes your blood healthier, too, reducing clotting times.

Good Cardio Fitness also means a lower resting heart rate and possibly lower blood pressure, which can alse reduce blood loss.

[jeff_wilson]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

It amuses them?

Well answered!

The amusement may be short-lived due to the stingy nature of limitation pricing. While less stingy than 3e, 4e's subset advantages weren't all priced to be combined that way.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

The amusement may be short-lived

It doesn't appear to be, Henry started this before 4e was even released, based on the iconic characters or Lite or something.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Why do you people persist in this pointless exercise?

I was just pointing out why Fit is not underpriced, since there's so much stuff HT gives that isn't included in fit.

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

It doesn't effect HT-Based skill rolls (Sex Appeal, Hiking ect. and notably any skill "floated" to HT), Basic Move, FP, or any calculation based on HT (Temperature Tolerance, breath-holding times...).

Good point.

[Dammann]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

It doesn't effect HT-Based skill rolls (Sex Appeal, Hiking ect. and notably any skill "floated" to HT), Basic Move, FP, or any calculation based on HT (Temperature Tolerance, breath-holding times...).

I find this part the harder to swallow, as opposed to Fit having a positive impact on bleeding. It seems like Fit should affect Hiking and breath-holding time (though maybe not Sex Appeal? It is a measure of cardiovascular health, which may not affect appearance or carriage, I guess).

[Kromm]

Fit and Very Fit affect physical feats by altering the rate at which FP are lost and/or recovered. They just don't do this by adding to skill rolls, FP, or the HT value used in the equations for some feats.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Dammann

It seems like Fit should affect Hiking and breath-holding time

it doe effect both of them, as both skills activities result in Fatigue lost so Fit speeds up the recovery of fatigue from them, and Very fit changed the check periods for them.

what Fit doesn't do is Improve your checks with them

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Dammann

I find this part the harder to swallow, as opposed to Fit having a positive impact on bleeding. It seems like Fit should affect Hiking and breath-holding time (though maybe not Sex Appeal? It is a measure of cardiovascular health, which may not affect appearance or carriage, I guess).

Why would you think it has no positive impact? It just doesn't add to the rolls/calculations it still has it's normal effect on FP loss. Which I realize is a repeat of what Kromm and roguebfl just said, but I wanted to be be clear that I never said that it has no effect.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Why would you think it has no positive impact?t.

Because he was thinking in terms of "slowing down the rate at which drowning knocks out and then kills you". Which it doesn't do apart from increasing the HT save versus death.