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I'd just like to see more combat dynamics remain possible and playable that gives some nail-biting back and forth through the end game between OGREs and other units, especially the GEVs.
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01-26-2018, 06:43 AM | #12 | |
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01-29-2018, 12:24 PM | #13 | |
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Can Ogres swim? Seems like an Ogre should probably be able to get stuck in a hole they can't climb out.
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01-30-2018, 07:03 AM | #14 |
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I think they have to be able to float a bit - at least be nearly neutrally buoyant. Any river of any width will have a center channel. There's lots of other holes and trenches on a gooey lake or river bottom, plenty with goo deeper than the top of the treads.
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01-30-2018, 08:44 AM | #15 |
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Re: Supercavitating OGRE Weapons...
Cybertanks are basically hunks of armor with weapons, sensors, and drivetrains embedded in them. Ogres are noted as "swimming" by driving along the bottom of waterways. It's the very setup for the original game; the Ogre moves onto the map out of a river. In addition, there is the fantastic bit about a cargo ship carrying five Ogres that was sunk on its way to Europe. Three came ashore anyway.
That said, the unusual boat-like hull of the Mark II was supposedly because it was designed, in part, for amphibious operations. Perhaps that one model can float, to some extent. |
01-30-2018, 08:54 AM | #16 |
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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If the Ogre is going to be 'swimming' to any extent, I suppose it could have ballast tanks like a submarine for buoyancy. Load up on compressed air, enter water, then vent the air after it emerges from the water.
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01-30-2018, 11:08 AM | #17 |
Join Date: May 2007
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I suspect that ballast tanks would be too vulnerable to overpressure from enemy munitions. Remember that we're talking about nuclear weapons here. Also, Ogres weigh a LOT; I don't know if they even have enough internal volume to support tanks physically big enough.
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01-30-2018, 11:44 AM | #18 | |
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Depending on where that freighter sunk, we're talking able to withstand crush pressures of over 500bar, and up to 850bar depending on how many trenches they had to ford to get there. Now imagine the kind of firepower you'd need to punch a hole in something like that. Somehow, I get the feeling this is why "killing" an ogre is stopping it cold, stripping off its guns, and then making it glow so brightly nobody dares salvage it. Which makes me wonder...are there any stories of a "Zombie" ogre, one that was full-on defeated [in game terms, 0 tread units + 0 weaponry], salvaged, repaired, 'brainwashed', and sent back into battle? I think the Vulcan rules [and/or a Vulcan scenario] involve retrieving a core, but what about the husk itself? "They left you to spend eternity, or at least until your reactor ran out of fuel, trapped inside that sensorless, motionless husk. They betrayed you. We retrieved your core, put you in a new shell; we saved you. Join us, and do what it is you are programmed to do to traitors..." could be a very good reason for joining Nightfall...
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01-30-2018, 12:26 PM | #19 | |
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01-30-2018, 04:49 PM | #20 |
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Where does it say that BPC floats? That seems to go against a LOT of published canon.
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