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Old 03-21-2011, 01:02 PM   #41
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A tea ceremony is something that could be done with style by a reasonably well-trained person. It is not a specialty that needs to be done by a professional(the way orchestrating a giant aristocratic feast would be). Therefore savoire-faire would do.
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:12 AM   #42
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Savoir-Faire is that skill. It's easy, it represents "appropriate behavior" (straight from the book), and it will give you a Good reaction (necessary both to fulfill his request, and fitting with wanting to have people react well to us:
I thought of using Savoir-Faire, but there is no "ordinary people" version. And Carousing implies partying. Fast-talk lying. I suppose I would give a +1 or _2 to someone being pleasant, or being in a situation where people meet, or being a "friend of a friend" thus pushing most reaction rolls from neutral to good.
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:17 AM   #43
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I thought of using Savoir-Faire, but there is no "ordinary people" version.
The default specialty is Savoir-Faire (High Society). Ordinary people with good style and manners emulate the social ideals of their society.

Because of the way tea ceremony is performed, it is not appropriate for Savoir-Faire (Servant) as servants do not serve the tea to their masters.
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Old 03-27-2011, 02:29 PM   #44
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I thought of using Savoir-Faire, but there is no "ordinary people" version.
There is no "ordinary people" version of tea ceremony either. Tea ceremony is an aristocratic ritual.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:12 PM   #45
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There is no "ordinary people" version of tea ceremony either. Tea ceremony is an aristocratic ritual.
Well in the sense that miserable peasants wouldn't have the inclination. Townsfolk would and it doesn't look to have cost all that much money. I can't remember the sumptuary laws of the olden time forbidding it they way they would have with wearing swords.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:01 PM   #46
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Well in the sense that miserable peasants wouldn't have the inclination. Townsfolk would and it doesn't look to have cost all that much money.
They are still enacting a ritual that is a part of High Society, just as Joe Average might be expected to put on a tax and give a toast at a wedding.

A full ceremony is, or at least can be, expensive, if you go all-out with a special tea costume, spoons, teapot and cups, mat, tea table, mats, etc.

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I can't remember the sumptuary laws of the olden time forbidding it they way they would have with wearing swords.
Restrictions on sword-wearing did occur, but not throughout Japanese history. Further, they usually only forbade specific weapon-wearing that connoted aristocracy, such as daisho, slung tachi, etc.
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:57 PM   #47
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Little thread necromancy. I liked the idea of a Professional Skill: Tea Preparation and in my opinion Meditation would cover Tea Cerimony for someone with he appropriate CF. But I would give a little penality and so transforming it on a Technique of meditation.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:50 PM   #48
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Little thread necromancy. I liked the idea of a Professional Skill: Tea Preparation and in my opinion Meditation would cover Tea Cerimony for someone with he appropriate CF. But I would give a little penality and so transforming it on a Technique of meditation.
As I was looking this thread over for the first time due to your necromancy I was opposed to the idea of using Savoir Faire the most but none of the other skills would likely teach it either.
So I would just call it a technique with no default for most people but could be used off of several skills with just a little training.
Skills you could apply the technique to would be Professional skill Geisha (though not all Geisha were trained in it), Meditation, Religious Ritual (Shinto maybe others), Diplomacy, and even Savior faire.
All would have a different approach but a little training would let them master the mechanics and be beneficial to those skills when done.
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As I was looking this thread over for the first time due to your necromancy I was opposed to the idea of using Savoir Faire the most but none of the other skills would likely teach it either.
So I would just call it a technique with no default for most people but could be used off of several skills with just a little training.
Skills you could apply the technique to would be Professional skill Geisha (though not all Geisha were trained in it), Meditation, Religious Ritual (Shinto maybe others), Diplomacy, and even Savior faire.
All would have a different approach but a little training would let them master the mechanics and be beneficial to those skills when done.
Actually I ended up writing a new skill simply called Tea Ceremony [IQ/A] and will use it. It defaluts for a lot of skills as you suggested but none can colver all of it. So if someone if only Savoir-Faire try to emulate Tea Ceremony the only result that he will achieve is to dont offende anyone.
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Actually I ended up writing a new skill simply called Tea Ceremony [IQ/A] and will use it. It defaluts for a lot of skills as you suggested but none can colver all of it. So if someone if only Savoir-Faire try to emulate Tea Ceremony the only result that he will achieve is to dont offende anyone.
That would work I think for just about anyone :) The idea of a default or technique is more generous then what you implemented so I cant possibly fault it :)
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