03-02-2005, 02:41 PM | #11 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lakeville, MN
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So, you get shot by a .223 for 18 points of damage, to the vitals. That's 18x3 = 54 points. At 1 bleed per minute per 7HP, that's 7HP per minute, or one HP per 8.5 turns. Damage is 30HP structural (hit locations modify blowthrough to 3xHP), and then a further bleed for 1HP every 8-9 seconds or so. Vs a HT10 person, autodeath at -5xHP is possible in about (30 more HP x 8.5 sec per/ 50% fail rate on HT rolls) 8.5 minutes. That's pretty realistic as far as how long people last after being shot. For a non-vital wound, you last much longer; basically you'll most likely roll a crit success to stop bleeding before you lose the 5xHP you need to get to autodeath.
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03-02-2005, 03:16 PM | #12 |
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Down in a holler
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DouglasCole:That is very similar to how I do it.
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03-02-2005, 03:27 PM | #13 | |
Join Date: Oct 2004
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The real problem is that most bow hunters are men. They have this serious macho complex that says they have to shoot the biggest draw bow they can handle. This is flawed thinking, becuase just becuase you can draw and shoot it doesn't mean you can do so effectively. I can draw and shoot an 80 lb bow at a target, however I would never do so hunting 1) because I can't do so in a smooth and quiet manner - the animals would be startled and run, even though I am 'perfectly capable' of drawing that bow back and releasing it. 2) it is at the very edge of my draw ability, so my shots aren't good shots - even when they hit. 3) You should always shoot at the draw which you can pull back smoothly and quietly, and shoot with comfort. It is more important to be accurate and efficient than uber powerful. Anyone shooting a white tail with a 70 lb draw bow is haveing serious overkill problems. I see peopel take down whitetail and mulee with 50 lb draw bows alll the time. the 60 lbs I use is becuase I can use it for deer, elk and bear quite effectively. ANyhting higher would be ridiculous and ineffectual anyway because it is outside my comfort range for accurate draw/shoot. I generally like to take shots in the 25 to 30 yard range myself. anything over 50 is (to me) a serious waste of arrows... |
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03-02-2005, 03:31 PM | #14 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wellington, NZ
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03-02-2005, 03:34 PM | #15 | |
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Yes, good bleeding rules are a must. |
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03-02-2005, 03:35 PM | #16 | ||
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wellington, NZ
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03-02-2005, 03:37 PM | #17 | |
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
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Normal bows have a draw pull of just the pull, but the compound have a pull ST different from their draw pull, right? I mean I know when I used my friend's compound bow with the 120 lbs pull, that I had no problems firing it at all. If that thing had a 120 lbs draw pull I'd be so busy drawing the bow back, that aiming would be even worse. |
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03-02-2005, 03:42 PM | #18 | |
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03-02-2005, 03:51 PM | #19 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind You!
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On a less realistic note, in many games killing someone may not be sufficient to keep them down.
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03-02-2005, 04:08 PM | #20 | ||
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Here are a couple of links I quickly hunted down for you. They are lengthy reaidng, but by just scanning them, I am fairly certain they are accurate. http://www.huntersfriend.com/bowselection.htm http://www.huntersfriend.com/newbowhelp3.htm These next two discuss draw let off briefly, which is important to what actual draw weight you can pull. http://groups.msn.com/ArchersParadise/compoundbow.msnw http://www.bowhunting.com/BowhuntingBasics.asp?page=2 and here is a good quote from a guide to picking a compound bow draw weight Quote:
I also noticed in skimming the article that I actually shoot lighter arrows than they recommend - so my arrows are faster but don't hit as hard and my shot correction isn't as forgiving. |
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