09-15-2017, 08:34 PM | #21 |
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Re: The guide to throat slitting (or sentry removal, for the gentlemen)
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09-16-2017, 05:28 AM | #22 | |
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Re: The guide to throat slitting (or sentry removal, for the gentlemen)
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Ultimately there's not much overall difference in damage done here thanks to Cut getting more of a boost than Imp due to the location bonus Say we have a ST10 gent with a Large knife Thr imp is 1d-2 x2.5, Sw -2 cut is also 1d-2 x2.5 Now as ST increases this will change. Anyway I do recommend looking at Technical Grappling if you are interested in this (and some suggestions have already been made). But ultimately we're talking about grabbing the target and doing damage as quick as possible to sensitive areas to incapacitate them faster than they can meaningfully react to you. And your solution will do that. It doesn't. This has come up in decapitation threads. There seems to have been a concious decision not to treat the neck like a limb in terms of crippling and destroyed/dismemberment thresholds. Last edited by Tomsdad; 09-16-2017 at 03:15 PM. |
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09-16-2017, 01:58 PM | #23 |
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Re: The guide to throat slitting (or sentry removal, for the gentlemen)
So there's part of what makes sentry removal a rules challenge in GURPS -- neck/throat durability. As a house rule, I might consider 1/2 HT loss to the neck from the front to cripple the voice, and full HT loss to crush the larynx and trigger suffocation.
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09-16-2017, 02:52 PM | #24 |
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Re: The guide to throat slitting (or sentry removal, for the gentlemen)
Also, people with cut throats can still make plenty of incoherent noise. After studying Martial Arts: Fairbairn Close Combat Systems a bit, I concluded that the easier way under GURPS was AoA (Double) for a Telegraphic grapple to the jaw (net +1 to hit) and a stab to the vitals, which are easier to hit than the neck locations.
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09-16-2017, 03:19 PM | #25 | |
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09-16-2017, 04:12 PM | #26 |
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Re: The guide to throat slitting (or sentry removal, for the gentlemen)
My understanding, though I don't have the rules reference for It, is that the grappler has the option of declaring he is covering g the mouth.
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09-16-2017, 04:13 PM | #27 | |
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*I manage a farm and cut throats in the course of my work, doing so efficiently, quickly and with a minimum of distress to the animal is a useful skill to have.
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09-16-2017, 04:17 PM | #28 |
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Re: The guide to throat slitting (or sentry removal, for the gentlemen)
We just use the pulp-like knockout maneuver from Action - hit to the skull, penalized HT roll or unconscious.
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09-16-2017, 05:05 PM | #29 | |
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In a low-tech setting, guards will probably have like 4~6 DR on the chest, and 0 on the neck. Of course, if you target is unarmored, it is better to do two stabs to the vitals. Actually it is a Choke Hold. Somewhere, in one of the books (I think Fairbarn's, though I'm not entirely sure), there is a rule that says when you Choke Hold you can silence your victim. |
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09-17-2017, 04:46 AM | #30 | ||
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Maybe but Gorgets, aventails etc. Also stuff like stiffened/reinforced collars to ward of garrottes etc. People have been sneaking up on each other and doing horrible things to necks for a long time, so people were aware of the risk of it. Quote:
Number 13 Sentry Hold: and Number 28 Use of the Knife Make the same point about holding the mouth closed, the former is a choke hold, but the latter is a grapple to the face Last edited by Tomsdad; 09-17-2017 at 04:59 AM. |
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