Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack

N.H.Alicia · 11-21-2017, 02:43 PM

How would I create a power that modifies an attack (more damage, conditions, armour piercing) or requires an attack to be used?

I have several ideas, including temporary Striking ST and such.

Yes, this is mostly for Gurps Naruto.

roguebfl · 11-21-2017, 03:04 PM

OK All lot of this falls under the specialized subsystem of "Imbuements" see: GURPS Power-Ups 1: Imbuements

but yes "One Skill only" Striking ST is a core rules way of increasing damage to Muscle powered attacks. there also Innate attack is requires "Accessibility <weapon>" to use

AlexanderHowl · 11-21-2017, 03:30 PM

You could modify a mundane attack through transforming it into the equivalent Innate Attack with Melee Attack and then paying for the difference. For example, a shortsword gives a ST 14 man a 1d impaling attack and a 2d cutting attack. It is effectively Cutting Attack 2d (Accessibility, Shortsword, -20%; Melee Attack, Reach 1, -25%) [8] with Impaling Attack 1d (Alternate Attack; Accessibility, Shortsword, -20%; Melee Attack, Reach 1, -25%) [1], so you would subtract that cost from the cost of any combat ability related to using a shortsword. If you wanted to give a character Armor Piercing (5), +150%, when using a shortsword, you would pay 21 points for the primary attack and 3 points for the secondary attack. Of course, Imbuements might be less expensive.

N.H.Alicia · 11-22-2017, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by roguebfl

but yes "One Skill only" Striking ST is a core rules way of increasing damage to Muscle powered attacks. there also Innate attack is requires "Accessibility <weapon>" to use

Does Accessibility (weapon) mean that the user of the ability has to attack with a weapon, or just have it in hand? I need the former.

Varyon · 11-22-2017, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by N.H.Alicia

Does Accessibility (weapon) mean that the user of the ability has to attack with a weapon, or just have it in hand? I need the former.

It's the latter. For the former, do you mean a case where the character, say, swings the sword to make a beam of fire shoot at the target, or where he attacks with the sword, gets the damage and all that for it, and also has the ability come into play? The former is really just different fluff on the Accessibility, but the latter would require both the weapon and the ability have Link +10%.

And, yes, it's an Enhancement, because it lets you do both at once.

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I should note this topic just came up a week ago. See this thread. Note I suggested a very similar methodology as AlexanderHowl, although in the case of melee weapons Natural Weapon is a much better fit than Innate Attack (assuming you have the relevant Pyramid article, from Pyramid #3/65).

lvalero · 11-22-2017, 10:07 AM

Some of the Chi powers I have created in my DF campaign have Accesibility only while chi imbueing -10% and Nuissance -20% "the imbue skill has a -2 penalty to roll".

These are a set of AA that only can be used during an imbuement.

Nereidalbel · 11-22-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by N.H.Alicia

Does Accessibility (weapon) mean that the user of the ability has to attack with a weapon, or just have it in hand? I need the former.

If the attack has the same Reach as the type of weapon it requires, there is functionally no difference.

Harald387 · 11-22-2017, 11:18 AM

Power-Ups 4: Enhancements offers a way to enhance ST-based weapon damage and natural attacks. IME it's pretty balanced.

N.H.Alicia · 11-22-2017, 05:03 PM

The user of this power would attack with their weapon, and a special effect would also come into play - for example, increased damage.

Striking ST with Costs FP (1s) works for increased damage, and Imbuements are good for some other effects, as do followups to melee attacks, but I may have to design something myself.

N.H.Alicia · 11-22-2017, 05:20 PM

Follow Up on a melee weapon strike would work well if it was possible to apply an Innate Attack even if DR negates the attack.

11-21-2017, 02:43 PM	#1
N.H.Alicia Join Date: May 2017	Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack How would I create a power that modifies an attack (more damage, conditions, armour piercing) or requires an attack to be used? I have several ideas, including temporary Striking ST and such. Yes, this is mostly for Gurps Naruto.

11-21-2017, 03:04 PM	#2
roguebfl Dog of Lysdexics Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne FL, Formerly Wellington NZ	Re: Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack OK All lot of this falls under the specialized subsystem of "Imbuements" see: GURPS Power-Ups 1: Imbuements but yes "One Skill only" Striking ST is a core rules way of increasing damage to Muscle powered attacks. there also Innate attack is requires "Accessibility <weapon>" to use __________________ Rogue the Bronze Firelizard Gerald Grenier, Jr. Hail Eris! Rogue's Weyr

11-22-2017, 10:07 AM	#6
lvalero Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Madrid, Spain	Re: Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack Some of the Chi powers I have created in my DF campaign have Accesibility only while chi imbueing -10% and Nuissance -20% "the imbue skill has a -2 penalty to roll". These are a set of AA that only can be used during an imbuement. __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein

11-22-2017, 11:18 AM	#8
Harald387 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON, CA	Re: Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack Power-Ups 4: Enhancements offers a way to enhance ST-based weapon damage and natural attacks. IME it's pretty balanced. __________________ M2: Everything is true. GP: Even false things? M2: Even false things are true. GP: How can that be? M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

11-22-2017, 05:03 PM	#9
N.H.Alicia Join Date: May 2017	Re: Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack The user of this power would attack with their weapon, and a special effect would also come into play - for example, increased damage. Striking ST with Costs FP (1s) works for increased damage, and Imbuements are good for some other effects, as do followups to melee attacks, but I may have to design something myself.

11-21-2017, 03:30 PM	#3
AlexanderHowl Join Date: Feb 2016	Re: Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack You could modify a mundane attack through transforming it into the equivalent Innate Attack with Melee Attack and then paying for the difference. For example, a shortsword gives a ST 14 man a 1d impaling attack and a 2d cutting attack. It is effectively Cutting Attack 2d (Accessibility, Shortsword, -20%; Melee Attack, Reach 1, -25%) [8] with Impaling Attack 1d (Alternate Attack; Accessibility, Shortsword, -20%; Melee Attack, Reach 1, -25%) [1], so you would subtract that cost from the cost of any combat ability related to using a shortsword. If you wanted to give a character Armor Piercing (5), +150%, when using a shortsword, you would pay 21 points for the primary attack and 3 points for the secondary attack. Of course, Imbuements might be less expensive. Last edited by AlexanderHowl; 11-21-2017 at 03:33 PM.

11-22-2017, 05:20 PM	#10
N.H.Alicia Join Date: May 2017	Re: Powers that alter standard melee attacks and powers that require a melee attack Follow Up on a melee weapon strike would work well if it was possible to apply an Innate Attack even if DR negates the attack.