Spells as Advantages [Thaumatology] - Page 2

Anders · 05-24-2020, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHowl

Ritual magic still requires a massive number of skill (there are 25 Colleges, so there would be 26 skills including the core skill, which is a prerequisite for the other skills). In addition, you still have to invest in specific techniques if you want a chance of using them.

Feel free to make it a single skill. I suspect it will be massively unbalanced, but I've been wrong before.

Taneli · 05-24-2020, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderHowl

Ritual magic still requires a massive number of skill (there are 25 Colleges, so there would be 26 skills including the core skill, which is a prerequisite for the other skills). In addition, you still have to invest in specific techniques if you want a chance of using them.

You could re-arrange the spells into 9 schools (and corresponding skills) akin to DnD, if you wanted to.

AlexanderHowl · 05-24-2020, 09:38 AM

The balance of the system would be provided by having characters purchase each spell as an advantage (5 CP for H spells/10 CP for VH spells). Even if you had just one skill for ritual magic, you are still having to purchase the H techniques to have a hope of doing any magic (the technique defaults would be Thaumatology-[6+prerequisite count]), so it is still a specific system rather than a general system. For example, the default for Transmogrification would be -36, so you would need to spend 37 CP to cast it without penalty.

The advantage that the D&D system possesses is that you either know the spell or you do not (you only have one overarching skill, Spellcraft). Now, you could make a ritual magic system similar to the D&D system, though I think that the GURPS system is adequate for what it does, but it would still be a ritual magic system and would not have spells as advantages. Transmogrification would still cost 37 CP to cast without penalty, while it would only cost 10 CP in a spell as advantage system.

A question related to the spells as advantages system (assuming that Thaumatology is the underlying skill and that Magery is similar to Magery [RPM]). What spells do you think that players would purchase as advantages? Which spells do you think would be largely ignored when they are not required as prerequisites?

Anders · 05-24-2020, 01:20 PM

Isn't there a Pyramid article on making skills into advantages?

05-24-2020, 09:38 AM	#13
AlexanderHowl Join Date: Feb 2016	Re: Spells as Advantages [Thaumatology] The balance of the system would be provided by having characters purchase each spell as an advantage (5 CP for H spells/10 CP for VH spells). Even if you had just one skill for ritual magic, you are still having to purchase the H techniques to have a hope of doing any magic (the technique defaults would be Thaumatology-[6+prerequisite count]), so it is still a specific system rather than a general system. For example, the default for Transmogrification would be -36, so you would need to spend 37 CP to cast it without penalty. The advantage that the D&D system possesses is that you either know the spell or you do not (you only have one overarching skill, Spellcraft). Now, you could make a ritual magic system similar to the D&D system, though I think that the GURPS system is adequate for what it does, but it would still be a ritual magic system and would not have spells as advantages. Transmogrification would still cost 37 CP to cast without penalty, while it would only cost 10 CP in a spell as advantage system. A question related to the spells as advantages system (assuming that Thaumatology is the underlying skill and that Magery is similar to Magery [RPM]). What spells do you think that players would purchase as advantages? Which spells do you think would be largely ignored when they are not required as prerequisites?

05-24-2020, 01:20 PM	#14
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Re: Spells as Advantages [Thaumatology] Isn't there a Pyramid article on making skills into advantages? __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius