08-14-2016, 11:14 PM | #31 | |
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To use a somewhat popular TV example, Band of Brothers, the show centers mostly on E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506 Parachute Infantry Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division. The 506 had nine companies, and, if I'm remembering correctly, were divided in to 2 Battalions of 4 companies each, with the 9th being Battalion HQ.
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08-15-2016, 01:00 PM | #32 |
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That's right. Too many unit size names running through my head, probably distracted by the pentomic layout that did do away with battalions. I'll fix the original.
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08-17-2016, 11:20 PM | #33 | |
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Armored divisions were organized differently. They consisted of three regiments (two armor, one infantry) and later six independent battalions (three each armor and infantry) which could be assigned to one of two combat commands--basically empty brigades--as needed.
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08-18-2016, 12:44 PM | #34 | |
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08-18-2016, 04:42 PM | #35 |
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Pretty much unconnected. The reason you would use trucks instead of tracks is because tracks tear the hell out of pavement and no-one wants to deal with resurfacing that many streets.
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08-18-2016, 06:32 PM | #36 | |
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If you wanted the thing to be a bit of a snafu, I think you could justify that within 24 hours of the crisis becoming publicly obvious, there might be 10k national guardsmen on the scene, in addition to local law enforcement, but only 30% of LEOs and few guardsmen would have gas masks, and only 70% of guardsmen and a few LEOs (mostly SWAT) would have night vision. So a better-prepared enemy attacking with chemical weapons at night could gain a large advantage. |
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08-18-2016, 06:44 PM | #37 | |
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Col. Wenger has a whole "Lessons Learned" section where he goes through his own complaints. Gas masks and night vision gear were not among them. The lack that jumped out at me the most, reinforcing the fact that this was 1992, was a lack of maps. Apparently there weren't a lot of detailed military maps of US cities, and so they had to make do with "automobile club maps and maps by a local cartographer". These days, I'd expect someone to pull out their smartphone and use Google Maps. Though maybe the Guard leaves behind such personal gear when on a mission, either by regulation or just so as not to risk losing it. I recall widespread availability of GPS devices at low levels being cited as an advantage in the 2003 Iraq war, but this was a decade earlier. Another equipment complaint was that the military radios in the FM band were "totally inadequate" in the urban terrain. They had a lot of trouble communicating until they got police radios in the AM band. (The other "what decade" moment in this paragraph was the suggestion to supply cell phones and pagers for such operations. Because who has their own cell phone unless they're Gordon Gekko?) The other main complaint about equipment was the batons, fire shields, and flak vests being old (~20 years), and not as effective as the modern stuff. |
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08-18-2016, 07:37 PM | #38 | |
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08-19-2016, 08:23 AM | #39 | |
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But Aliens? No, nobody is going to depend on the Guard to stop an alien invasion. The Guard isn't going to be any more relevant to an alien invasion than whether or not it had NV goggles in 1992.
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08-19-2016, 11:46 AM | #40 | |
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(Just based on a quick skim—will read full article later.) |
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