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Old 01-14-2013, 10:34 AM   #21
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This fits in with his dislike for the "Yellow Eye".
And still I'd suppose more Susceptible to Good Artifacts, not Weakness. He was kept with elven rope at neck for several weeks or even monthes without nothing more than Moderate Pain and mundane callus.

And he certainly doesn't have Low Pain Treshold. One can't have this and go outfield without cloth and shoes even while being a hobbit.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:05 AM   #22
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And still I'd suppose more Susceptible to Good Artifacts, not Weakness. He was kept with elven rope at neck for several weeks or even monthes without nothing more than Moderate Pain and mundane callus.

And he certainly doesn't have Low Pain Treshold. One can't have this and go outfield without cloth and shoes even while being a hobbit.
Feelings of temperature are not the same as pain in reality or gurps terms. If that's what you mean. Besides, there's a difference between painful situations under your control and those outside of it. Going outside was under his control.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:28 AM   #23
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Not that it matters but, he gets a lot of points from disads that give negative reaction modifiers, this smacks of double dipping as he both vigourously avoids social interaction, and past a certain point everybody hates him anyway it doesn't really matter by how much.
Double-dipping doesn't really matter when you're statting up an NPC, it's more of an exercise in establishing verisimilitude.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:30 PM   #24
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I like doing these write-ups! I'm thinking of statting Dr. Clayton Forrester next.

I'll be thinking about what you've said until tomorrow.
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Yeah, I don't have a problem with his strength as-written. He is clearly much stronger than he looks and seems to be treated as a genuine menace to a sword-armed Bilbo and to easily overpower most other Hobbits in grappling (all but the much larger Sam) from what we see on-screen.

But he can stand up and use his hands without penalties. Maybe Semi-Upright?
Yeah that, I was thinkin somethin like that...

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He bashes fish against rocks or just eats them while they're still moving. And then there's the brutish animalistic way he breaks little animals backs to kill them. Perhaps another odious personal habit.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:37 PM   #26
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I like doing these write-ups! I'm thinking of statting Dr. Clayton Forrester next.
The one from War of the Worlds or the one from MST2K?
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:45 PM   #27
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Not that it matters but, he gets a lot of points from disads that give negative reaction modifiers, this smacks of double dipping as he both vigourously avoids social interaction, and past a certain point everybody hates him anyway it doesn't really matter by how much.

He needs a lot of Temperature Tolerance. He spends most of his time cold and wet, a human would be dead of hypothermia within days.
So would most hobbits (since hobbits are basically human anyway). But Smeagol is different, the Ring has to some degree mutated him into something a little different. He's still flesh-and-blood, but his limits and strengths are no longer exactly those of a hobbit.

As Gandalf told Frodo in the novel, there's onl one Power that knows all about the Rings and their effects (i.e. Sauron) and no Power (meaing Ainur) that knows all about hobbits, so predicting the interaction over centuries would be challenging. Smeagol could reasonably have lots of 'unique' traits.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:55 AM   #28
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The one from War of the Worlds or the one from MST2K?
MST3k. I'm watching the episodes at a pace of one a day.

Edit: Edited Gollum to remove Weakness and add a Dislike for "good" artifacts, as well as a Perk and a Quirk to account for his running habits.
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Seems like he should have higher health, fit, or some other type of endurance advantage. Gollum endures tremendous hardship, from being tortured by Sauron, to traveling alone all across the wild. When he is with Frodo and Sam, he keeps going when even they (hardy hobbits) are dead on their feet, while eating less than they are.

Needs some kind of area or secret knowledge--paths of the wastes and into Mordor.

I'd say he also has some kind of pitiable looks, probably switchable, and perhaps fast talk or acting as well. He's able to keep Frodo fooled, and to get out of trouble by groveling for his life a few times. At other times he's quite intimidating.

How about some skill in riddles?
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:12 PM   #30
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Seems like he should have higher health, fit, or some other type of endurance advantage. Gollum endures tremendous hardship, from being tortured by Sauron, to traveling alone all across the wild. When he is with Frodo and Sam, he keeps going when even they (hardy hobbits) are dead on their feet, while eating less than they are.

Needs some kind of area or secret knowledge--paths of the wastes and into Mordor.

I'd say he also has some kind of pitiable looks, probably switchable, and perhaps fast talk or acting as well. He's able to keep Frodo fooled, and to get out of trouble by groveling for his life a few times. At other times he's quite intimidating.
It's not that Frodo was quite 'fooled'. Gollum/Smeagol was genuinely torn two ways, his pitiable-ness was partly real, alongside his very real evil.

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