03-12-2019, 02:51 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Pacheco, California
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No magic items for starting characters?
What other restrictions do you put on their starting grand, if you give them that much?
And what keeps the party from passing around a goblin sorceress (always fun at parties) to brand all their bolts? BTW: Any guesses as to my house ruling that Sir Irving didn't consider when he hired Molly for mass branding in anticipation of the target to use these bolts on?
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03-12-2019, 05:33 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Carrboro, NC
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
For me it depended on the characters backstory and the power level of the adventures I planned on running. Anything magic or exotic (such as boomerangs) needed serious justification, and would often draw the "You've never heard of those." veto from the GM.
TFT has such a wide variety of weapons, magic items, and equipment, that I never felt the need to open up the whole catalog all at once. Last edited by tomc; 03-12-2019 at 05:34 PM. Reason: superfluous comma |
03-12-2019, 07:40 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Pacheco, California
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
Which is why you need to keep the goblin and elf sorceress out.
Otherwise they can cast brand for guys like this: ST 9 DX 12 IQ 11 MA 12 Very fine expert Javelin(1d+2, -1 DX to be attacked), Brand tied to a pole(1d-2 magic weapon, stops 2 hits via 2-weapons talent) Pole Weapons(2), Running(2), Two Weapons(2), Weapon Expertise - Pole weapons(3)
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03-12-2019, 08:00 PM | #4 | |
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
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Is she learning to throw the javelin now, or does she have some outside interest that may be holding her back from taking her place among the elite Jaguars of the Flame? If she's off adventuring, why did she leave (flee?) her platoon? Wanderlust got the best of her? Insubordination? Revenge? Secret mission? |
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03-12-2019, 08:17 PM | #5 | |
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
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The only question is why isn't she making $60 * 25 fatigue/day / 5 fatigue per success (at 50% success rate) * 5 days a week = $1,500 a week branding the Army's bolts?
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03-13-2019, 01:05 AM | #6 | ||
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
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Depending on what the player wants, though, and the type of game, I may or may not restrict such things. Sometimes starting with a magic item is fun and harmless, and can provide an interesting connection into the game world. e.g. the PC starts with a special item given to them by particular NPCs for a particular reason, which can lead to interesting things. Quote:
"This magical torch requires as raw material a stick of well-aged wood about 2 feet long." No quarrel is two feet long. Otherwise, there is that no one in my TFT campaign world has ever known or heard of the Brand spell... and if I introduce it, it will tend to be a version without any effects that I don't want. But even as written, and applied to an arrow, or even if a GM allows it on a crossbow bolt, it only says it's a flaming arrow, as in, an arrow that is on fire and doesn't go out very easily. But it does say that it goes out in "a few seconds" in a wet element (like flesh & blood). And there is no listed combat effect, so the GM might interpret it as just being something you could start fires with, but not really worthy of extra damage. In fact, since the proper Flaming Weapon enchantment lists at $10,000 versus $60, I'd say it does not give you anything like the same combat effect. I'd tend to say it doesn't do any extra damage. |
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03-13-2019, 01:29 AM | #7 |
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arizona
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
Ahhh. The good old "I'm the GM and can control my world" ploy! ;-) Gosh I get tired of all the rules lawyer stuff...
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03-13-2019, 01:31 AM | #8 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
Well and also, I don't expect SJ really intended Brand to effectively give everyone +2 crossbow damage that would normally cost $10,000, for $60 or 4 fatigue.
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03-13-2019, 01:36 AM | #9 |
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arizona
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03-13-2019, 07:50 PM | #10 | |
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Re: No magic items for starting characters?
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"The Brand enchantment, cast on an arrow, creates a reliable flaming arrow which will remain burning for a minute after it is fired. A Brand does not require a regular Magic Item Creation spell. It can be made by any wizard who knows 7-Hex Fire. Casting the spell that way requires 4 ST. A Brand usually sells for $60, but prices may go up if the wizards are busy or a big adventuring party is buying up the supply." The brand arrow is created by a version of 7-hex fire. The fire spells all have a duration of one minute. If you don't shoot the arrow within a minute, it is a pile of ashes. The reference to the cost of brands is in reference to the torch, not the arrow. So, the goblin munchkin needs to stand by the archer and enchant away for as long as her ST holds out. |
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