03-02-2019, 09:05 PM | #1 |
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Why are dwarves Scottish?
The closest historical human analogs to a dwarven race are the Tibetans or especially the Inca. Try Inca but with advanced metalworking to freak out the players in your next campaign.
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03-02-2019, 10:38 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Why are dwarves Scottish?
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I don't know why the dwarves are stereotyped as Scots. Clannishness, maybe? I don't even know how I picked up the cliché. I'm only sure that it was familiar enough in 1983 that I could write an article about it for the magazine of the UNSW Role-Players' Association then.
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03-03-2019, 03:57 AM | #4 | |
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Scots are stereotypically thrifty and warlike and good with clever devices, other than that I am drawing a blank.
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03-03-2019, 04:32 AM | #5 |
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Re: Why are dwarves Scottish?
Because most actors find a consistent Welsh accent too difficult, look you.
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03-03-2019, 05:57 AM | #6 |
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Re: Why are dwarves Scottish?
I blame Poul Anderson. Hugi the Dwarf in Three Hearts Three Lions has a Scottish accent, and that book is a heavy influence on original D&D and hence the entire roleplaying (and later videogame and fantasy film) community.
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03-03-2019, 07:48 AM | #7 | |
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The ethnic relations in Tunnel in the Sky are a bit of a puzzle. It's suggested that Carolyn Mshiyeni and Rod Walker are a potential couple (which doesn't seem to be on either of their minds; Rod is startled by the idea, and then offended by his father's thinking she's not acceptable), and that that makes it necessary for Rod to be black; but Rod DOES take an interest in Jack Daudet, once he figures out she's a girl, and if she's white (she might be black West Indian, I suppose) that would be an interracial pair, and if she's black too then her marriage to Rod's friend Jimmie Throxton, a redheaded Irishman, is interracial. All I can say is that Alice Dalgliesh must not have thought it through.
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03-03-2019, 08:02 AM | #8 |
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Re: Why are dwarves Scottish?
Apparently the actor who played Gimli in the films has a native Welsh accent and was asked to assume a Scots accent for the part. I always figured it was Peter Jackson who popularized the idea, sometimes to the point of silliness; that's where I first remember encountering it.
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03-03-2019, 09:29 AM | #9 | ||
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In Order of the Stick Durkon is a Scottish Dwarf. There are some British stereotypes about different regions and accents in the British Isles which can be hard for us foreigners to see. Quote:
I would like to have a trustworthy guide to Heinlein's time at Scribner and relationship with Alice Dalgliesh. Most of what I have heard comes from him and his partisans, or is hearsay from people like James Davis Niccole who I don't trust on this topic. The letter to F.M. Busby from his Story Notes file upset a lot of things which I thought I knew about his thinking. Mostly, I try to remember him as the author of some awesome short stories and short novels from 1939 until circa 1957, and for the ideals in his public writing from that period.
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03-03-2019, 10:13 AM | #10 | |
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The clannishness and propenity to ferocity has already been mentioned but there is also the holding of grudges for extremely long times.
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