Maintaining 0 FP spells during sleeping

[GWJ]

Can I do that? :) If I have -2 FP (high skill), an in result cost of spell is 0 FP, can I maintain it even during sleeping?

EDIT: and bonus question: does canceling the spell (for 1 FP) require Concentration maneuver, or is free action?

[Kromm]

Originally Posted by GWJ

Can I do that? :) If I have -2 FP (high skill), an in result cost of spell is 0 FP, can I maintain it even during sleeping?

No. Spells, p. 11 is very clear: "You cannot maintain spells while you sleep." This has nothing to do with energy cost; it has to do with controlling the magic, which is necessary no matter what its cost might be.

Originally Posted by GWJ

EDIT: and bonus question: does canceling the spell (for 1 FP) require Concentration maneuver, or is free action?

It's a free action on your turn.

[evileeyore]

I've given some thought on this in the past... my solutions to "Mage PC wants to be able to sleep and maintain spells at the same time":

1 - Use the spells Lend Spell, Maintain Spell, and Steal Spell. They are already there after all!

2 - Create a Perk:

Somnincanto† Prereq: Meditation, Ritual Magic, Spell at 15+
The Wizard can create a small ritual space within which he may sleep that maintains his spells. He spends a pool of FP into the ritual and this maintains the spells it is prepared with, so long as there are FP in the pool. Upon leaving the space or it running out of FP, the spells revert back to his maintenance (and if he's still asleep, end when their maintenance comes up).

Spells being maintained this way have a minimum maintenance cost of 1.


† – The perk requires specialization by spell.

[Dalin]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

1 - Use the spells Lend Spell, Maintain Spell, and Steal Spell. They are already there after all!

Note, especially for those that are focused solely on DFRPG, that these are not part of the DFRPG Spells collection. They're published in GURPS Magic. Lend Spell and Steal Spell could be ported over as-is since their prerequisites are already in Spells. Maintain Spell would need adjusted prereqs; I might just make it require Steal Spell.

2 - Create a Perk:
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Spells being maintained this way have a minimum maintenance cost of 1.

Any reason you went with a minimum of 1 rather than the mechanic in Maintain Spell ("1 energy for every five full duration periods")?

[Refplace]

I just grab Absolute Timing and set a mental alarm to wake up.

[Anthony]

A specialized form of Doesn't Sleep would probably do the job; if all it does is let you maintain spells it's a pretty big limitation.

[Tom H.]

Originally Posted by Refplace

I just grab Absolute Timing and set a mental alarm to wake up.

Originally Posted by Anthony

A specialized form of Doesn't Sleep would probably do the job; if all it does is let you maintain spells it's a pretty big limitation.

Ooohhh, munchkins at work; it does seemed to be encouraged in Dungeon Fantasy.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by Dalin

Note, especially for those that are focused solely on DFRPG...

Forgot which subfora this was.

Any reason you went with a minimum of 1 rather than the mechanic in Maintain Spell ("1 energy for every five full duration periods")?

It was simpler, penalized not chasing the Lend/Maintain/Steal path, and kept the very munchkinny stuff off the table for all but the really dedicated (no 'combat' spells while sleeping for instance, but Magelock, Weather Dome, and other 'better living' type spells suddenly become very doable).

Originally Posted by Refplace

I just grab Absolute Timing and set a mental alarm to wake up.

That's an awful lot of waking up to keep that Armor spell going...

Originally Posted by Tom H.

Ooohhh, munchkins at work; it does seemed to be encouraged in Dungeon Fantasy.

Yeah... I'd eyeball it as -50%, so 10 points for a "Maintain Spells While You Sleep" Advantage.

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

That's an awful lot of waking up to keep that Armor spell going...

I wouldnt use it for a 1 minute duration obviously, 6 to 8 hours though covered some spells I liked.
Another idea is take something like the Soaring enhancement for Flight and use something like that for Compartmentalized Mind or even Magery.