GURPS Prime Directive Races in an ATU GURPS Traveller - Page 2

robkelk · 07-31-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero of Canton

It's shiny, I was askin' if anyone had home-brewed their own versions of the post-TOS Klingons, and other races not included in GURPS Prime Directive. I got my own ideas about what should go where, but seeing what others have cooked up would be of great help.

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Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

I don't think it'd be much likelier there but the main Gurps forum might be more on topic.

(does a Tag Search on "star trek")
(looks through the results)

These might be of interest:

Hero of Canton · 08-01-2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by robkelk

(does a Tag Search on "star trek")
(looks through the results)

These might be of interest:

Shiny!

Muchas gracias to both robkelk & captain joy! I'll take it from here.

Hero of Canton

SteveS · 08-02-2017, 10:25 AM

Somewhat off topic, I was a small part of the Prime Directive play-test. A GURPS ambassador or evangelist (I forget the official title) ran a session, and we gave our thoughts to him, to forward to the play-test coordinator.

My main problem with it was that Star Trek personal weapons just don't work like gaming weapons. On television, a phaser set to "stun" is a "one hit and you're down" weapon, and set to "kill" it's a "one hit and you're dead" weapon. If you're a regular, "stun" shots hit or miss depending on the dramatic needs of the story, and "kill" shots always miss. If you're a redshirt, both "stun" and "kill" shots usually hit, so it's best not to be a redshirt. If you're an adversary, hits and misses depend on the dramatic needs of the story. And if the episode needs a fight that last longer than a few moments, phasers are absent, impractical, and non-functional, and the fight is settled with fists.

In the play-test version of the game, a phaser set to "stun" was less likely to actually stun someone than fists, and a phaser set to "kill" was about as dangerous as a pocket knife set to "kill". Both points are better able to provide fights that last more than a single accurate shot, which has a bit of dramatic value, but they beg the question of why people would use phasers instead of packing a Taser as a stun weapon and an old-fashioned slug-thrower as a kill weapon. And most important, they just didn't match the feel of Star Trek.

Those were the play-test rules we tested. I don't know whether they were better in the released version.

I'm actually not sure how I'd revise the rules to capture the feeling of the show. Maybe rule that phasers on "stun" get a heavy to-hit penalty shooting at named character, and set to "kill" they always miss named characters. Named adversaries get the same penalty except in the final 15 minutes of the episode. And of course redshirt allies and adversaries face the full danger of the weapons.

sir_pudding · 08-02-2017, 11:21 AM

Yeah, that's really off-topic. You should probably post this to the regular GURPS forum. The short answer is GURPS Action.

08-02-2017, 10:25 AM	#13
SteveS Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: near Seattle WA USA	Re: GURPS Prime Directive Races in an ATU GURPS Traveller Somewhat off topic, I was a small part of the Prime Directive play-test. A GURPS ambassador or evangelist (I forget the official title) ran a session, and we gave our thoughts to him, to forward to the play-test coordinator. My main problem with it was that Star Trek personal weapons just don't work like gaming weapons. On television, a phaser set to "stun" is a "one hit and you're down" weapon, and set to "kill" it's a "one hit and you're dead" weapon. If you're a regular, "stun" shots hit or miss depending on the dramatic needs of the story, and "kill" shots always miss. If you're a redshirt, both "stun" and "kill" shots usually hit, so it's best not to be a redshirt. If you're an adversary, hits and misses depend on the dramatic needs of the story. And if the episode needs a fight that last longer than a few moments, phasers are absent, impractical, and non-functional, and the fight is settled with fists. In the play-test version of the game, a phaser set to "stun" was less likely to actually stun someone than fists, and a phaser set to "kill" was about as dangerous as a pocket knife set to "kill". Both points are better able to provide fights that last more than a single accurate shot, which has a bit of dramatic value, but they beg the question of why people would use phasers instead of packing a Taser as a stun weapon and an old-fashioned slug-thrower as a kill weapon. And most important, they just didn't match the feel of Star Trek. Those were the play-test rules we tested. I don't know whether they were better in the released version. I'm actually not sure how I'd revise the rules to capture the feeling of the show. Maybe rule that phasers on "stun" get a heavy to-hit penalty shooting at named character, and set to "kill" they always miss named characters. Named adversaries get the same penalty except in the final 15 minutes of the episode. And of course redshirt allies and adversaries face the full danger of the weapons.

08-02-2017, 11:21 AM	#14
sir_pudding Wielder of Smart Pants Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ventura CA	Re: GURPS Prime Directive Races in an ATU GURPS Traveller Yeah, that's really off-topic. You should probably post this to the regular GURPS forum. The short answer is *GURPS Action*.