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Old 07-26-2016, 08:06 AM   #1
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Default Do stop thrusts end movement?

The title is basically my question:

Does the Stop Thrust maneuver stop the enemy from moving?
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:34 AM   #2
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Default Re: Do stop thrusts end movement?

Wild boar are (in)famous for not stopping, and boar spears have plates or crossbars in order to physically stop the animal from forcing its way up the spear to attack you. But - wild boar are also infamously tough, stubborn, and if they can't avoid you then potentially very aggressive to the point of berserk.

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If you get hit by a thrust impaling attack with a Stop Thrust, I would definitely ask you for Will rolls (modified for the shock penalty, with the usual +3/-3 for High Pain Threshold) if you want to keep pushing forward, and I'd only let you push forward a number of yards based on your margin of success. I'd also assess 1/2 the injury you sustained on the original attack every second you try this stunt, a bit like pulling out a stuck pick or barbed arrow.

I don't particularly see how swinging attacks would stop you, per ce - but knockback can push you back. Remember that if you get knocked back more than a yard, you have to roll DX or fall down (and Shock applies). Also, if you got stuck on a swung pick, the usual rules for being controlled by the pick or having to pull yourself off apply.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:00 AM   #3
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Default Re: Do stop thrusts end movement?

See Martial Arts, p106 "Holding a Foe at Bay." Basically, a foe can run themselves up a spear but it requires a penalized Will roll and a fair bit of strength and maximizes the damage from your attack. Alternately, if you fail to penetrate DR or don't use a thrusting, impaling weapon, then your foe has to win a contest of ST to close without having to spend extra movement.
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Old 07-26-2016, 02:08 PM   #4
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Default Re: Do stop thrusts end movement?

Thank you mlangsdorf! That's what I was looking for, exactly. And now that I know about the running through, I thought to look at Low-Tech and it's treatment of the Partisan (spear with a sort of cross bar) and lo! It refers to Martial Arts p106 ^^'

Bruno, I guess a non-impaling weapon would be used less to stop someone from approaching me and more to clothesline and block someone running past me towards a friend.
Otherwise I don't really see it either.
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:43 PM   #5
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Default Re: Do stop thrusts end movement?

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Thank you mlangsdorf! That's what I was looking for, exactly. And now that I know about the running through, I thought to look at Low-Tech and it's treatment of the Partisan (spear with a sort of cross bar) and lo! It refers to Martial Arts p106 ^^'

Bruno, I guess a non-impaling weapon would be used less to stop someone from approaching me and more to clothesline and block someone running past me towards a friend.
Otherwise I don't really see it either.
Do you mean non-impaling or non-thrusting? I can pretty easliy envision a stop thrust with a staff keeping someone at bay, even though that is CR not IMP.
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Old 07-26-2016, 05:58 PM   #6
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Again, if you're hit by a non-thrusting or non-impaling attack while charging (or your DR absorbs all the base damage of a thrusting impaling attack), you have to win a contest of ST or spend extra MP to move forward. Assuming you're not knocked back or stunned from the damage, of course.

It's the same rule if you thrust a quarterstaff into someone's stomach or clobber them with an ax.
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