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Old 12-25-2004, 12:14 AM   #11
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How about the FEELINGS of a SAI?
Well, emotions are just subsystems that offer us behavioral impulses related to our genetically-developed survival strategems. Any AI is going to be created with similar impulses, since they were designed with a certain purpose and there are general behavioral guidelines you are going to want to put in for safety (don't hurt humans) or general common sense (self-preservation). Since an SAI is a sapient being, these pre-programmed guidelines and goals are going to manifest as emotions do in humans rather than being hard-set restrictions. Like any free-willed being, they can then make choices according to the inputs these independent sub-systems provide.

So, any SAI is going to have inhibitions against causing harm and an eye for self-preservation, so they will feel equivalents to social emotions (guilt, affection, charity, forgiveness) and fear. Any SAI is probably going to have a built in desire to gather information and learn about the world around them, adding curiosity to the mix. If it is going to perform security functions, you are going to want strong moral emotions like a sense of justice and fairness. Anything subject they are built to persue will likely generate behavior akin to enthusiasm, and as they branch out and grow this will spread to other topics as well. And so forth.

I believe an SAI would end up with a fairly rich emotional palette. However, there are going to be marked differences. For one, practically no AI is going to be given any desire to procreate (it just creates a host of problems), so they are going to be missing a huge bank of emotional motivations that are very core to any living thing. They won't feel lust, will probably be missing actual love (but deep affection is certainly plausible), probably won't be capable of jealousy or territoriality. They will likely have very different self-image issues and competitiveness, since they aren't built to judge themselves and others according to abstract procreative worthiness criteria.

In addition to the purely mental aspects, there may be equivalents of physiological markers as well. In situations where their survival is at stake, they will likely draw extra power, take unneeded processors off-line in order to focus more resources on the important survival tasks at hand, and put increased priority on these tasks. This is the equivalent of a human's rush of adrenaline, heightened awareness and focus in the presence of danger.

So, definitely alien in some respects, but in others quiet human.
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Old 12-25-2004, 09:41 AM   #12
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For one, practically no AI is going to be given any desire to procreate (it just creates a host of problems), so they are going to be missing a huge bank of emotional motivations that are very core to any living thing.
What about Von Neumann machines? There might be lot's of other AIs (..used in military/commercial operations..) that are designed with a strong temptation to replicate themselves and also to care for their "offspring".

Another issue are the AIs in "pleasuroid"-type cybershells. Their emotions may feature lust and so on as an essential parts of their personality.
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:12 AM   #13
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What about Von Neumann machines? There might be lot's of other AIs (..used in military/commercial operations..) that are designed with a strong temptation to replicate themselves and also to care for their "offspring".
Except, AFAIK, Von Neumann machines are big no-nos. Any that are discovered are promptly destroyed. The only place they're likely to survive for any length of time is in the deep Deep Beyond, where unscrupulous corporations can experiment with them far from sources of interference.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:30 PM   #14
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What about Von Neumann machines? There might be lot's of other AIs (..used in military/commercial operations..) that are designed with a strong temptation to replicate themselves and also to care for their "offspring".
I didn't think Von Neumann's were generally intelligent? Even if so, they are a big no-no (as someone already mentioned) one way or the other. The possibility, though, is why I said 'practically no AI' rather than 'no AI'. :-)

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Another issue are the AIs in "pleasuroid"-type cybershells. Their emotions may feature lust and so on as an essential parts of their personality.
Sure, but they are not going to be procreative urges and so are probably going to miss a lot of the foibles human lust has (as well as having some of their own, programmed or otherwise). For example, while we have particular criteria for discerning attractiveness that have a connection to fitness for procreation, pleasure AIs are going to be programmed to either find particular individuals attractive or to be rather undiscerning (the rude might say 'slutty'). Just makes sense given what they are programmed for. Also, a lot are likely to be programmed to have a 'broad range' of sexual behaviors (that is, they'll be really kinky) in order to better serve their customer(s). It really makes them a very different beast.

Of course, some are likely to be programmed to be as close to human as possible in this regard, particularly for someone looking for a companion and not a sex-obsessed cyberslut. ;-
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What about an SAI that programs other SAIs?
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Old 01-21-2005, 03:19 PM   #16
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What about an SAI that programs other SAIs?
Their programming would likely manifest as something akin to affection for their charges (they'd be concerned for their well-being, want to check up on them, see that they are successful). They might also manifest jealousy if their programming strongly urges them to make sure that the child SAI only receives their input.
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