Imbuement and Attribute Subsitution

[TheEnglish]

I have a player in a DF game who wants to get a little more out of his archer. He wants to add Imbuements to his abilities, but since he's a Scout, he wants to use DX instead of IQ for the Imbuement skills. I'm inclined to allow it, but would this be imbalanced, or infringe on the magic users' niche?

[Nereidalbel]

Imbuement skills are already DX by default...

[mlangsdorf]

There's the Mystic Knight and Mystic Knight Lens from Pyramid v3 #13 that is explicitly intended to let a character use DX-based Imbuements.

I think there's also a variant Scout called the Mystic Scout that uses Imbuements, but I can't find it in my Pyramid collection.

[Phantasm]

Nereidalbel is correct; Imbuement skills already DX-based skills.

However, if your GM has decreed that Imbuements are IQ-based (either because of insufficient understanding of them or because it makes more sense to him; I can see the logic of the latter), there is also an Attribute Substitution Perk in Power-Ups 2: Perks, which admittedly has to be bought once per skill. Fortunately for skills which require specialization (like Imbuements), it covers all specializations of the skill.

[Sorenant]

Following up this question, is it possible to use Attribute Substitution (IQ to Will or DX) on a normal spell?
Haste/Great Haste based on Will or DX sounds quite good for for martial artists or any other DX guy.

[Gef]

I think that the enhancement Based on (Attribute) is legit for Imbuement, for +20%.

[Kalzazz]

This thread has a discussion of the reasonability of IQ based imbuements, by no less a luminary than Kuroshima, writer of the DF Mystic Knight

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=80138&page=2

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Kalzazz

This thread has a discussion of the reasonability of IQ based imbuements, by no less a luminary than Kuroshima, writer of the DF Mystic Knight

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=80138&page=2

You'll make me blush

Originally Posted by Gef

I think that the enhancement Based on (Attribute) is legit for Imbuement, for +20%.

I personally would not have an issue with that. What stat is used for Imbue is left as a feature of whatever power Imbue lands in, as described by the notes on Imbuement in the Campaign section of Power Ups 1

Originally Posted by Sorenant

Following up this question, is it possible to use Attribute Substitution (IQ to Will or DX) on a normal spell?
Haste/Great Haste based on Will or DX sounds quite good for for martial artists or any other DX guy.

Up to the GM, but it's AFAIR, one legit option. Attribute Substitution already warns that it's use must be vetted by the GM

Originally Posted by TheEnglish

I have a player in a DF game who wants to get a little more out of his archer. He wants to add Imbuements to his abilities, but since he's a Scout, he wants to use DX instead of IQ for the Imbuement skills. I'm inclined to allow it, but would this be imbalanced, or infringe on the magic users' niche?

I would recommend that the player takes the Mystic Knight lens, if you are allowing Mystic Knights in the campaign. It already lets the character use DX based Imbuements. As for niche protection, changing professions lenses already let a character get out of his niche and into the other template's niche, and it's no different than the thief taking the swashbuckler lens to add some fencing and witty repartee to his repertoire gets into the knight's niche.