[OOC] The Marching Storm

[Epic Kobold]

Originally Posted by Grey_Fox

phase 1. it would be easy to gain the support of the people due to the length of the civil war, also we could play on the fact that Godfrey comes from "the common stock", and amp up fears about looming enemies. we could then go and liberate and incorporate the southern cities gaining more popular support, demonstrating strength, and gaining new resources
phase 2. we use stealth and guerrilla tactics on both sides under the banner of the other and weaken both, constantly drawing the two sides into conflict
phase 3. we declare that we are ending the war by attacking waging all out war against both sides in their weakened states

Is there a benefit to battling both sides? Even with the south under our belt, we're sure to get creamed by their combined effort. This is why I suggest we aid than absorb the rebellion. In the beginning, they are resources, support, and a distraction for the king's men. In the end they're one hell of a massive experienced army. We beat them not with a closed fist, but an open hand.

And if need be, an assassination or two that frames the royals...but not until we are considered a major player.

Originally Posted by zoncxs

which side did we choose again?

In game, we're still debating that. Though tactically, we're better off siding with the rebels.

[zoncxs]

Originally Posted by Epic Kobold

Is there a benefit to battling both sides? Even with the south under our belt, we're sure to get creamed by their combined effort. This is why I suggest we aid than absorb the rebellion. In the beginning, they are resources, support, and a distraction for the king's men. In the end they're one hell of a massive experienced army. We beat them not with a closed fist, but an open hand.

And if need be, an assassination or two that frames the royals...but not until we are considered a major player.



In game, we're still debating that. Though tactically, we're better off siding with the rebels.

ah, for a second I thought king, if we did I would suggest taking over Denton or convince them to switch, convince photius to join and pincer sterling. with the rebels split they would lose and not see it coming.

going the other way and joining the rebels would be difficult since the king has a better place to defend.


I play Go so this is what I see (^,^)

[Lamech]

Originally Posted by Epic Kobold

In game, we're still debating that. Though tactically, we're better off siding with the rebels.

If we want to dispose both leaders and rule ourselves then we need to side with the rebels, I don't think we can get the loyalist to be disloyal obviously. Of course, Cabble wins its not a good situation. What about a loose alliance to the rebels? If we grow enough in power the rebels may decide that we could lead them to victory. I can't believe that many other people like Cabble, but are just choosing him because they really hate the king.

Edit: Nice M.S. paint map. I note Simonton is the top castle on the western boarder.

[Grey_Fox]

Originally Posted by Epic Kobold

Is there a benefit to battling both sides? Even with the south under our belt, we're sure to get creamed by their combined effort. This is why I suggest we aid than absorb the rebellion. In the beginning, they are resources, support, and a distraction for the king's men. In the end they're one hell of a massive experienced army. We beat them not with a closed fist, but an open hand.

Agreed, based on the map the best plan of action is to side with the rebels (what i was meaning was that we stay "neutral" while actualy playing both sides against the middle and then fighting both once neither has much fight left in them and we are still strong because of neutrality, its overly complicated however and as you say its easier just to side with one, beat the other and then beat our chosen side), conquer the south, assassinate cabble, the conquer the north. One of my concerns would be that if we side with the rebels they will call us away to go up north, then Simonton will get smashed while we are away and its game over, that's why i think taking the south is a must, by making ourselves a dominate power of the realm we make ourselves indispensable to both sides.

[Skullcrusher]

Is there a netural country that perhaps Duncan cna try to persuade to our cause. Or perhaps a nefarious group of Pirates or Brigands he can try to woo into aiding us. Beggars can't be chosers at this point.

Also I am going to be out the rest of the weekend so don't expect anything regualr until Monday

[Lamech]

Originally Posted by Skullcrusher

Is there a netural country that perhaps Duncan cna try to persuade to our cause. Or perhaps a nefarious group of Pirates or Brigands he can try to woo into aiding us. Beggars can't be chosers at this point.

Also I am going to be out the rest of the weekend so don't expect anything regualr until Monday

ORCS! I'm sure they would happily help us enslave and massacre everyone else in the kingdom. /stupidity

No not really. We have Orcs, Megalos, and various Muslim countries that want to invade. So I'm sure they might invade us it would be kind of like say... curing a cold by having Ebola out compete it.

[Grey_Fox]

Originally Posted by Skullcrusher

Is there a netural country that perhaps Duncan cna try to persuade to our cause. Or perhaps a nefarious group of Pirates or Brigands he can try to woo into aiding us. Beggars can't be chosers at this point.

Also I am going to be out the rest of the weekend so don't expect anything regualr until Monday

well one of the early posts said that bandits and highwaymen had gotten out of control, you could try recruiting them. They are stealthy, already have bases inside others lands, and are reasonable trained....on the otherhand they are cowards that will run from battle and betray us to whoever pays the highest....oh well no one is perfect =P

[Epic Kobold]

Again, I must point out what Megalos did with the Reptiles (lower green box, page 90). It worked for them, why not for us? In fact, they already hold one of the cities to the south, right? That's a war effort saved. Reptiles are low maintenance and revel in personal strength and conquest. That's a force of crazy fighters no one wants to deal with.

Also, look where we are geographically. We border the desert that the brutes call home. If we play the diplomacy game properly, that is a sea of soldiers trained from birth and built for guerrilla tactics with minimal training. Alien mindset keeps them from being bribed or deterred.

Also, it's our characters looking upon our world's history for inspiration...which makes for nice flavor.

[Skullcrusher]

Originally Posted by Epic Kobold

Again, I must point out what Megalos did with the Reptiles (lower green box, page 90). It worked for them, why not for us? In fact, they already hold one of the cities to the south, right? That's a war effort saved. Reptiles are low maintenance and revel in personal strength and conquest. That's a force of crazy fighters no one wants to deal with.

Also, look where we are geographically. We border the desert that the brutes call home. If we play the diplomacy game properly, that is a sea of soldiers trained from birth and built for guerrilla tactics with minimal training. Alien mindset keeps them from being bribed or deterred.

Also, it's our characters looking upon our world's history for inspiration...which makes for nice flavor.

They like Sheep If we make a pact to provide the X number of sheep per year we might garner some suport. That way we don't ahv eto fued when they steal since we will be supply them free sheep.

[Skullcrusher]

Question what is a good skill to use to recruit troops. He already ahs the perk Head Hunter which gives him a bonus. I was htinking streetwise to find the unsavory type and perhaps diplomacy for the more honorable sort. Or is it just a reaction roll?