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He got a better one -- if you'll go back and reread his post, you'll see he ended up buying it for a lot less than $18.
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01-21-2013, 08:48 AM | #22 | ||
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Basically, what it comes down to is if there's really a big difference between reprinting a booster, reprinting the cards from the booster or if it exists in in both states at the same time, and you don't really know what it is until you open the box. |
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01-21-2013, 09:25 AM | #23 |
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Before this thread gets locked down, let me sneak my opinions in here. They are, principally:
1.) These booster collection products are awesome, and ALMOST make me wish I hadn't already purchased all the boosters in question 2.) Given the constraints on Andrew as far as referencing unreleased product, and in the face of a direct question about the possibility of the reprinting of the Munchkinomicon, I think he DID answer the only way he really could, short of not answering at all (which *I* might have done had I known that in a few short days B&N would be announcing this product anyway, but I don't have Andrew's knowledge and responsibilities, nor any idea if he actually KNEW that bit of info at the time, so I'm not going to second guess him). But... 3.) Not trying at all to sound hostile, and knowing this will essentially sound like Monday morning quarterbacking, the only part of this whole thing that I do find a bit off was the fact that SJGames did, shortly (a little over a week) before the announcement of this product go out of their way to post a notice in the Illuminator not JUST informing folks that they were sold out of Munchkinomicon, but encouraging people to go "grab one quick". It is one thing not to reveal or even hint at a partner's upcoming product, but that Illuminator created a sense of urgency that really, as it turns out, wasn't warranted. And that Illuminator post, very likely, was a motivator for some of the direct questioning about reprinting that Andrew then had to figure out how to best respond to. Given the relatively short interval between the two (and the fact that it had ALREADY been announced, on more than one occasion in the past, that Munchkinomicon was in short supply and would not be reprinted), it SEEMS like it would have been better to simply hold off on such an announcement until one could ALSO give people the news about the Game Changers set (or at least NOT word the Illuminator in such a way as to encourage a sense of urgency and haste). Just my two cents. And if, one day down the road, we see a set called "Munchkin Marketing Madness" with all the licensed boosters (Conan, The Guild, Skullkickers, and Penny Arcade), that would be cool, too. I don't consider that likely, but here's me putting my name on the suggestion, so maybe this time I can look cool for predicting a product more than two days before it comes to pass. ;-) |
01-21-2013, 11:29 AM | #24 |
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I know I said I was done, but I wanted to say that this discussion inspired me to write this post, which says pretty much everything I think needs saying on the subject. From now on, I'll just be able to point people there. So thanks to the posters for getting me to set this down on paper -- or electrons, anyway.
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01-21-2013, 01:36 PM | #27 |
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[QUOTE=Mister Ed;1510076]But...
3.) Not trying at all to sound hostile, and knowing this will essentially sound like Monday morning quarterbacking, the only part of this whole thing that I do find a bit off was the fact that SJGames did, shortly (a little over a week) before the announcement of this product go out of their way to post a notice in the Illuminator not JUST informing folks that they were sold out of Munchkinomicon, but encouraging people to go "grab one quick". It is one thing not to reveal or even hint at a partner's upcoming product, but that Illuminator created a sense of urgency that really, as it turns out, wasn't warranted. And that Illuminator post, very likely, was a motivator for some of the direct questioning about reprinting that Andrew then had to figure out how to best respond to. Given the relatively short interval between the two (and the fact that it had ALREADY been announced, on more than one occasion in the past, that Munchkinomicon was in short supply and would not be reprinted), it SEEMS like it would have been better to simply hold off on such an announcement until one could ALSO give people the news about the Game Changers set (or at least NOT word the Illuminator in such a way as to encourage a sense of urgency and haste). QUOTE] One thing being overlooked here is that neither Andrew nor SJ Games announced Game Changer. It was discovered on the Barnes and Noble web site by a forum member and linked to in this very thread. SJ Games hasn't done anything short of saying the Munchkinomicon booster was almost gone and then acknowledging that the cards would be in Game Changers. They didn't try to pull a fast one, in fact Game Changers won't even be available till April. Hardly a bait and switch move on Andrew's part. William |
01-21-2013, 02:03 PM | #28 |
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Well, I think it's cool and, even though I have those boosters, will be awaiting its release just so I can get the new Fairy Dust and Munchkinomicon level counters. I'll probably just end up repackaging the boosters that come in it to give away at demos. Thanks!
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01-21-2013, 02:14 PM | #29 |
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I'm declaring discussion of the previous unpleasantness off-topic. If you want to talk about Game Changers itself, that's fine, but let's leave the side issues alone. Thanks.
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01-21-2013, 02:28 PM | #30 |
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Here's a question about Game Changers that you may or may not be at liberty to answer at this point, but I thought I'd toss it out there.
The Level Counters included, do they benefit from the same rule as the rest of the Level Counters? If you have a Fairy Dust Level Counter, and the game you are playing includes Fairy Dust, does that mean you start at Level 2? If so, that would be kind of neat, IMHO. |
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