06-17-2018, 12:14 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Hirelings + Time of day items
Yo, you guys mind clearing something up? If the "Staff of the slain" grants an extra +3 to Pathfinders during the hours of 4pm - 7pm, if this card is Cheat!ed, or used with a Hireling which "let's you use an item you otherwise would not be able to", then you could get the extra +3?
Cheats and Hirelings ignore Sex/Race/Class/Slot/Big and Small requirement, so I'd assume it'd bypass time of day, right? Letting you use an item you otherwise could not? Lastly, if Staff Of The Slain can be used this way, it was mentioned at the table that Vorpal Sword has a Subtext of +10 to monsters with "J" in its name, if this item is cheated then you can ignore this subtext too and +10 against every monster? Just because the Staff of the slain's subtext is also being ignored? Thanks :p. |
06-17-2018, 07:15 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
Cheat! lets you use the thing. It doesn’t make the thing do stuff it normally wouldn’t.
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06-18-2018, 11:30 AM | #3 |
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
This is correct. You can use it, but you don't get the best possible bonus if the conditions for that bonus aren't met.
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06-18-2018, 01:01 PM | #4 | |
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
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So if subtext specifically says a certain trait/gender/class/race/time of day is required, this cannot be Cheat!ed. Lol ultimately Staff Of The Slain being a further +3 to Pathfinders between 4-7pm cannot be cheated and counted; It can only be +4, its original bonus. Right? *EDIT* So the FAQ says "Cheat! completely negates the requirements of an Item" if the item is required to be used at 4-7pm by Pathfinders, is this not a requirement that can be used with Cheat? Last edited by Rawnfella; 06-18-2018 at 01:26 PM. Reason: FAQ revision |
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06-18-2018, 01:56 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
If I understand you correctly, the time period isn't a requirement for USE, though. It is simply a requirement for an added bonus. Cheat! lets you USE something that wouldn't otherwise be legal. If the item is already legal for you to use, but only gives an extra bonus under certain circumstances, Cheat! doesn't let you get the added bonus.
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06-18-2018, 06:21 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
Makes perfect sense, so Cheat! doesn’t let you use the full item to its potential by bypassing race/gender/class requirements, it merely lets you equipt it?
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06-25-2018, 08:16 AM | #7 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Macungie, PA
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
That is correct.
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07-10-2018, 06:58 AM | #8 |
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
Cheat! lets you use the higher bonus on Morningstar and Nightstick, which are time-based items.
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07-10-2018, 07:19 AM | #9 |
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Re: Hirelings + Time of day items
True, but that's an ability of those cards, not of Cheat! in general.
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