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Old 07-21-2015, 11:06 AM   #41
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Yes, that would certainly be contorted.

If that's supposed to be a reference to US gun regulation, note that privately raised armies are only 'okay' to the sense of freedom of association. Any army-like way of using those rifles is very not okay.
Nah, USA does allow private citizens pistols, at least in some places.
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Old 07-21-2015, 01:50 PM   #42
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Nah, USA does allow private citizens pistols, at least in some places.
Also true. I was just trying to guess where that example was coming from. And apparently failing.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:10 PM   #43
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Yes, that would certainly be contorted.

If that's supposed to be a reference to US gun regulation, note that privately raised armies are only 'okay' to the sense of freedom of association. Any army-like way of using those rifles is very not okay.
Hardly. Blackwater is a US company, after all. They just can't be an army on US soil (a pretty major distinction, I grant you).

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Nah, USA does allow private citizens pistols, at least in some places.
Honestly reminds me more of the situation in Canada, but ISTR our legislation doesn't allow mercenaries.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:16 PM   #44
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Also true. I was just trying to guess where that example was coming from. And apparently failing.
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Hardly. Blackwater is a US company, after all. They just can't be an army on US soil (a pretty major distinction, I grant you).

Honestly reminds me more of the situation in Canada, but ISTR our legislation doesn't allow mercenaries.
Was actually talking about modern Ukraine, particularly as of the last 1 years.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:19 PM   #45
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TL12^ Quantum Archery

As with other implicate order interface (IOI) sports, the implanted web aligns the neuro-somatic system directly with the unified field. The 'bow' manifests a section of reality with a defined resiliency. The 'string' is an intercostal membrane joining the bow arc whose length is defined by the conviction the user can apply in the pseudo-dimension (defined by (Willx2+ST)/2). Aiming is an entirely neuro-somatic operation, so remains based on DX.

'Arrows' are extracted from a carried supplied of plasmatter, and remain in an undefined eisen-state twinned to the user's implant web. Their exact capabilities emerge momentarily after launch based on a quick contest with the target's probability defenses, if any.



Edit: Is it weird that I expect pretty much everybody here will be able to make some kind of sense out of that babble?
I like the fact that the arrow's capability only becomes apparent after the contest with probability defense. It makes me think of The Spaceship Heart of Gold's improbability drive.

The arrow just turned that guy into a penguin "at a probability factor of 3 million to 1 against and falling." Sorry, but I love Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Seriously though, that is a really cool concept! Think if the shooter had unlucky and was firing one of these arrows (or if the target had unlucky for that matter)... You would never know what might happen.
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Is the bow for "RUle of Cool" or "Realism?"
Actually, the characters are recreations of older edition GURPS characters that my friends had. Several of us (myself included) had moved away for a while, but we are all back for one reason or another. When I mentioned wanting to run a campaign, everyone thought it would be cool to update the "old gang."

That brings us to Luke Deerborne (the character using the bow). The player always envisioned him as a bow hunter and designed him to be a great shot. Add to this the fact that he managed a few well timed critical hits throughout his career, and his bow became known as deadlier than any pistol.

So, to answer the question... It was originally chosen because of the cool factor, but it has since became the character's calling card almost. He does have the Guns skill (pistol), but it is quite a bit lower than his bow skill. I think its like a Bow 21 vs Guns 15 if I can remember correctly.

ETA: As I think about it, there may even be a bigger gap than that. I don't have a copy of his sheet handy.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:55 PM   #46
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Was actually talking about modern Ukraine, particularly as of the last 1 years.
I didn't even think an example was necessary (though it is appreciated); it shouldn't be any great stretch of the imagination that those with power would find ways for the rules to apply to everyone else. Only a hopeful stretch that some would resist the tyranny as best as they could.
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:29 PM   #47
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Honestly reminds me more of the situation in Canada, but ISTR our legislation doesn't allow mercenaries.
I'm just glad my home state of Oregon doesn't allow bounty hunters. They're pretty much mercenaries not bound by laws that citizens or even cops are technically required to obey.
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:42 PM   #48
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I didn't even think an example was necessary (though it is appreciated); it shouldn't be any great stretch of the imagination that those with power would find ways for the rules to apply to everyone else. Only a hopeful stretch that some would resist the tyranny as best as they could.
But that's not what the case is. It specifies that people with pistols are not okay even if they are in a private army. Or if you're referring back to Malloyd's prior version, the private armies were using bows because the rules did apply to them, they just didn't forbid them from being an army. There's nothing there about the rules not applying to people in power either way.


Having somebody enforcing weapon restrictions while not holding any sort of monopoly of force position is pretty weird. I wonder how that works.
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:01 PM   #49
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I'm just glad my home state of Oregon doesn't allow bounty hunters. They're pretty much mercenaries not bound by laws that citizens or even cops are technically required to obey.
Bounty hunters are required to obey the same laws as everybody else. The stuff people do tend to think of as special powers actually aren't all that broad, and anybody else who stood surety on somebody else's bail bond has the same rights. In a sense letting somebody post your bond is a mild form of selling yourself into slavery. Or appointing that person your legal guardian if you want a nicer analogy - it really doesn't permit much a parent couldn't do to a child.

Mind you many prosecutors tend to exercise discretion and not pursue violations too vigorously, but that's a somewhat different issue.
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:05 PM   #50
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I didn't even think an example was necessary (though it is appreciated); it shouldn't be any great stretch of the imagination that those with power would find ways for the rules to apply to everyone else. Only a hopeful stretch that some would resist the tyranny as best as they could.
I'm not sure if you understood the example. Private armies aren't inherently bad. In fact, they served quite well most of the time in order to protect against invasion. (Though it's not like they don't have dark incidents too . . . as do cops and militaries of the non-private sort too!)
My point is that they are much more 'okay' by both the government and the society than e.g. private civilians owning pistols (though there's also a restriction on rifle types for individual non-organised civilians).
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