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Which is scary in and of itself. I wonder how much of the harbor might freeze over for a particularly bad winter. What might the stats on that be? Like, how cold would it have to get to start a freeze there?
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07-09-2019, 05:31 PM | #102 | |
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From 1780 - 1888 the east river froze over 8 times and the Hudson river froze 3 times. The temperature was recorded at -14 when both had frozen over in 1821. With a full -7 degree temperature drop, maybe triple the likely hood? 1 in 4 for the East river and 1 in 12 for the Hudson river. It's all together possible that the chances of freezing over go up in a non-linear fashion and freezing over may be the norm.
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07-09-2019, 06:01 PM | #103 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
Good to know! Thank you, (E), as always you're a font of useful information. :-)
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07-10-2019, 06:40 AM | #104 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
There's a chef in Ireland using centuries old Bog Butter in his restaurant, but it's been stored in an aerobic acidic environment (buried in a peat bog). Enough chemistry has been going on there that I'm not sure what substance it actually is now - it might be more of an "interesting" flavor than a food.
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07-10-2019, 07:15 AM | #105 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
Bog butter sounds like a horrifying euphemism for something. Or maybe just an interesting old timey epithet.
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07-10-2019, 11:29 AM | #106 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
A restaurant serving people an ingredient that was buried in an Irish bog centuries ago sounds like a good set up for a horror adventure.
People all over the city with no obvious connection start meeting weird ends. The PC find out that the only thing they had in common was going to that restaurant and ordering a particular menu item. What else is buried in that bog? Back on the topic, my guess is that it probably takes longer than just a couple of decades for sea water to give up it's energy and start to significantly contract, and certainly much longer for glaciers to build up. Sea level probably will have stopped rising and started to drop, but it wouldn't get down to the same level as the last time the earth was 7 degrees colder probably for centuries. |
07-11-2019, 08:20 AM | #107 | |
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Given enough time (decades), this regen bush will be replaced by forests of larger, slower growing trees if the climate and soil allows, or otherwise will probably end up as scrubland.
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07-11-2019, 09:22 AM | #108 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
Another thing which goes south faster than people imagine is the sewer. Even on a micro scale, if your local lift station goes down, it will take less than a day of normal usage before there are serious backups for whichever house has the lowest drains.
And even if there were still gravity-fed sewers, the biggest threat to underground pipes is tree roots. And the second biggest is unusual freezing. So, in this scenario... I'd call it a total loss and figure that some alternative would be called for quickly. |
07-11-2019, 04:30 PM | #109 | ||
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For those of you following along at home, bog butter is either butter or lard or suet, some solid animal-origin fat like that, sealed up in a barrel-type-thing, possibly also inside a leather bag, and then buried in a peat bog for completely unknown reasons. It's a fairly frequent find for peat cutters, such that crazy chefs can just buy and eat some. The probable explanation is a combination of storage and culturing/fermenting - when they repeat the process, 2-year-old bog-butter is a lot like North-African Smen. Smen, in turn, is a kind of cheese-thing made by burying butter + sage in a sealed pot for as long as you can restrain yourself from digging it up again. Apparently it tastes a bit like blue cheese, and while it's considered smen after only a few months, it's a bit like wine and considered to improve with years or decades of aging.
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07-11-2019, 09:17 PM | #110 |
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Ok. Next question: what animals from zoos might be able to form a breeding population in the wild?
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