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Old 01-20-2013, 12:50 AM   #1
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Does anyone have any advice on statting up a "typical" MOSSAD agent in GURPS 4e style?

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Old 01-20-2013, 08:32 AM   #2
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Well, GURPS Action contains great suggestsions about nearly any High-Tech action or close genre and has explicit templates and lenses for sercet service employees.

Though, as any sercet service it consists nearly entirely of Investigators and Wire Rats, with only 3 groups of 12 people forming "black-ops" division.
So, you should decide which departement your agent goes from.

Pretty cinematic Investigator from Mossad might look like this:
Spoiler:  

If you want more realistic one, decrease IQ and DX to 12 at least.
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Afters some accounting I see that template contains too many IQ skills, so IQ can be raised by 1 and those skills lowered. Just usual optimization which save many skills. Or replace some of IQ with some Talent, maybe Natural Copper or even Super-Spy (though the latter is more cinematic).
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:39 PM   #3
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Krav Maga is on Martial Arts page 183. I imagine their firearms training is fairly well modeled by Assaulter with Modern Pistol elements on Tactical Shooting page 47 and 48.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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In the usual nomenaclature, a Mossad 'agent' is a foreign national who provides the Mossad with intelligence or otherwise acts on their behalf. An Israeli employee the Collection Department of the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations would be an 'intelligence officer'.

I assume that you wanted assistance in statting such an individual, rather than an Arab or other foreign national who reported to a Mossad handler?

While there are former and even current commandos under the auspices of the Mossad, most intelligence officers will be unarmed or armed with a pistol for self-defence, at most. Modern Pistol, from Tactical Shooting, would be much more common than Assaulter. Many officers would merely have enough skill in Pistol, Knife/Shortsword (whichever is used for the short stick), Brawling and Wrestling (likely 1 points in each) to pass a qualification test and hope that they never have to rely on any of them.

In my campaign, I use a Professional Skill: Intelligence Officer to reflect knowledge of tradecraft, operation of standard equipment and other necessary job-skills of a spy. Analoguous to Soldier or Law Enforcement skills. There are also a lot of other necessary skills; for the 'standard' image of an intelligence officer these include Observation, Shadowing, Body Language, Detect Lie, Fast Talk, Diplomacy and Area Knowledge. Many others will also be necessary, depending on speciality and assignment.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:28 PM   #5
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While there are former and even current commandos under the auspices of the Mossad,
Fair enough. The flashy ex-paratrooper commando/assassin types do tend to attract the imagination though. My apologies.

I wonder how common Krav Maga even is. I suspect that in real life they at most have a minimum training requirement that amounts to just a few hours a year. You don't actually need to be able to kill somebody with your hands while fighting naked if your actual job is analysis.
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Fair enough. The flashy ex-paratrooper commando/assassin types do tend to attract the imagination though. My apologies.
It may well be what he is looking for, mind you. On the other hand, in real life, it is much more likely that Mossad officers provide intelligence support for Sayret Mat'kal or other commandos during their operations, rather than actually doing the fighting themselves. Exceptions have existed in the past; but mainly involved operations which were secret enough so that not even the IDF was supposed to have any idea they were happening.

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I wonder how common Krav Maga even is. I suspect that in real life they at most have a minimum training requirement that amounts to just a few hours a year. You don't actually need to be able to kill somebody with your hands while fighting naked if your actual job is analysis.
Analysts would have gone to a course during their military service and possibly a refresher course. On the other hand, a rather large proportion of the Collection Department people, even the ones with official cover, are stationed in places where they are at high risk of being attacked, more likely by what amounts to street thugs with political and ethnic views than actual representatives of hostile governments and the most organised terrorist groups. They'll have considerably more use for self-defence than most Western intelligence officers covered as diplomats.

If you want Israelis with both extensive training and practical experience of having to fight for their life with bare hands, though, I'd look at Shin Bet and YAMAM, which both operated among hostile crowds of Palestinians in order to locate and capture or kill terrorist leaders. While they carried a pistol, it was far from unknown for a confrontation to turn into a large riot where a mob of locals tried to kill the Israeli officer once he was identified as what he was. His backup would then wade in to rescue him with bludgeons or guns, depending the level of danger.
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If even the skill set of a spy-ish character is abstracted into a Professional skill of sorts, something's wrong.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:00 PM   #8
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In the usual nomenaclature, a Mossad 'agent' is a foreign national who provides the Mossad with intelligence or otherwise acts on their behalf. An Israeli employee the Collection Department of the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations would be an 'intelligence officer'.

I assume that you wanted assistance in statting such an individual, rather than an Arab or other foreign national who reported to a Mossad handler?

While there are former and even current commandos under the auspices of the Mossad, most intelligence officers will be unarmed or armed with a pistol for self-defence, at most. Modern Pistol, from Tactical Shooting, would be much more common than Assaulter. Many officers would merely have enough skill in Pistol, Knife/Shortsword (whichever is used for the short stick), Brawling and Wrestling (likely 1 points in each) to pass a qualification test and hope that they never have to rely on any of them.

In my campaign, I use a Professional Skill: Intelligence Officer to reflect knowledge of tradecraft, operation of standard equipment and other necessary job-skills of a spy. Analoguous to Soldier or Law Enforcement skills. There are also a lot of other necessary skills; for the 'standard' image of an intelligence officer these include Observation, Shadowing, Body Language, Detect Lie, Fast Talk, Diplomacy and Area Knowledge. Many others will also be necessary, depending on speciality and assignment.
You are correct, I was using "agent" in the generic rather than the specific.

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Krav Maga is on Martial Arts page 183. I imagine their firearms training is fairly well modeled by Assaulter with Modern Pistol elements on Tactical Shooting page 47 and 48.
Thanks for the page numbers.

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Well, GURPS Action contains great suggestsions about nearly any High-Tech action or close genre and has explicit templates and lenses for sercet service employees.

Though, as any sercet service it consists nearly entirely of Investigators and Wire Rats, with only 3 groups of 12 people forming "black-ops" division.
So, you should decide which departement your agent goes from.

Pretty cinematic Investigator from Mossad might look like this:

[writeup snipped]

If you want more realistic one, decrease IQ and DX to 12 at least.
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Afters some accounting I see that template contains too many IQ skills, so IQ can be raised by 1 and those skills lowered. Just usual optimization which save many skills. Or replace some of IQ with some Talent, maybe Natural Copper or even Super-Spy (though the latter is more cinematic).
Wow. Thank you for this. Very thorough.

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