08-24-2017, 08:46 AM | #1 |
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Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
I have a player that wants to use Lifting ST instead of Striking ST to raise damage with his bows.
Is this allowed?
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08-24-2017, 09:00 AM | #3 |
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
For clarity: TDS is "The Deadly Spring", a Pyramid article by Douglas Cole (who is on this forum quite actively).
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08-24-2017, 09:10 AM | #4 |
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
Thanks so much for the clarification.
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08-24-2017, 11:55 AM | #5 |
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
I would never allow that.
The entire reason lifting strength is cheap and striking strength is expensive is because lifting strength can't be used to attack. If they want to strike harder either buy full strength or striking strength.
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
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Still, of course: your game, your rules. But given bows are based on thrust rather than swing, it's 6 points per +1 to damage, and that +1 happens every second to sixth turn depending on how quickly you're shooting, compared to 5 points for +1 to swing damage anywhere from one to many times per turn . . . I'm not worried about balance! In a cinematic game (like DF) where you can quick-ready, quick-draw, Heroic Archer, and basically fire arrows like an elvish ferret on drugs, I'm in complete agreement. DF and the DFRPG take pains to make the scout as nasty on a turn-by-turn basis as many melee fighters, so putting them all on the same ST basis is probably the right call.
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08-24-2017, 12:23 PM | #7 |
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
Part of the issue here is just what lifting ST is supposed to represent. Assuming it does apply to the arms, most likely it means your ST is slow -- the amount of force muscle can apply normally drops as your contraction rate increases, and lifting ST probably drops off faster, while striking ST drops off slower.
For bows, a simple implementation of this is to add an extra turn of readying to a bow with a ST that is above your striking ST but below your lifting ST. |
08-24-2017, 12:34 PM | #8 |
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
That would mean that lifting things above your head, which for large weights requires rather quick explosions of force, involves striking strength.
It's Basic, so I don't think it needs or makes sense with such over-analyzing. You lift with Lifting, and strike with Striking.
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08-24-2017, 01:53 PM | #10 |
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Re: Bows: Striking ST vs. Lifting ST
Lifting things rapidly would involve striking ST. Your other option is of course to declare that lifting ST does not represent anything physically describable, but that seems undesirable.
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