Giant Skunk and Bad Smell vs Kneepads of Allure (inaccurate translation?)

mogwai · 08-08-2017, 10:10 PM

Hi!

I have Russian sets with inaccurate translation of "Bad Smell" card.
Can you provide original text for cads Giant Skunk [Unnatural Axe] and Bad Smell [Cheat With Both Hands]? I can't find it anywhere.

Kneepads of Allure says: "ни один игрок не может отказать тебе в помощи…". It is correct equivalent for "If you ask for someone for help, they may not refuse …"
Giant Skunk says: "Твои друзья… не могут помогать тебе…" which we can clearly interpret as "Your firends… can not help you…"

But Bad Smell translated as "Другие манчкины винят в отвратном запахе тебя, не подозревая, что ты бьёшься с монстром, так что и помогать тебе не будут." (back translation: Other Munchkins blame you for the bad smell, without suspecting that you are fighting with a monster, so they will not help you.)

Here is an issue: "помогать тебе не будут" can be "don't want help you" and "can not help you" at the same time.
Which is correct?
Can I use Kneepads of Allure to force them help me whether they want it or not? Or they can not help me because of bad smell?

Andrew Hackard · 08-08-2017, 10:58 PM

Bad Smell prevents anyone from helping you. You're on your own.

mogwai · 08-08-2017, 11:00 PM

Can you provide original text from the card, please?

Max-level · 08-08-2017, 11:49 PM

They will not allow full card text on the forums. But I did find and old post where someone had a similar question.

"The Kneepads force them to help you regardless of level, combat strength, gender, race, class, or anything else. The only thing that would stop them from helping you would be a card that specifically says they can't help you."

since bad smell says they can't/won't help you, I'd say that you can not use the pads. I'm no official though, so I could be wrong.

EDIT: just seen Andrew's post. He gave you the answer and he is the official answer.

08-08-2017, 10:10 PM	#1
mogwai Join Date: Aug 2017	Giant Skunk and Bad Smell vs Kneepads of Allure (inaccurate translation?) Hi! I have Russian sets with inaccurate translation of "Bad Smell" card. Can you provide original text for cads Giant Skunk [Unnatural Axe] and Bad Smell [Cheat With Both Hands]? I can't find it anywhere. Kneepads of Allure says: "ни один игрок не может отказать тебе в помощи…". It is correct equivalent for "If you ask for someone for help, they may not refuse …" Giant Skunk says: "Твои друзья… не могут помогать тебе…" which we can clearly interpret as "Your firends… can not help you…" But Bad Smell translated as "Другие манчкины винят в отвратном запахе тебя, не подозревая, что ты бьёшься с монстром, так что и помогать тебе не будут." (back translation: Other Munchkins blame you for the bad smell, without suspecting that you are fighting with a monster, so they will not help you.) Here is an issue: "помогать тебе не будут" can be "don't want help you" and "can not help you" at the same time. Which is correct? Can I use Kneepads of Allure to force them help me whether they want it or not? Or they can not help me because of bad smell?

08-08-2017, 10:58 PM	#2
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Giant Skunk and Bad Smell vs Kneepads of Allure (inaccurate translation?) Bad Smell prevents anyone from helping you. You're on your own. __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

08-08-2017, 11:00 PM	#3
mogwai Join Date: Aug 2017	Re: Giant Skunk and Bad Smell vs Kneepads of Allure (inaccurate translation?) Can you provide original text from the card, please?

08-08-2017, 11:49 PM	#4
Max-level Join Date: Sep 2015	Re: Giant Skunk and Bad Smell vs Kneepads of Allure (inaccurate translation?) They will not allow full card text on the forums. But I did find and old post where someone had a similar question. "The Kneepads force them to help you regardless of level, combat strength, gender, race, class, or anything else. The only thing that would stop them from helping you would be a card that specifically says they can't help you." since bad smell says they can't/won't help you, I'd say that you can not use the pads. I'm no official though, so I could be wrong. EDIT: just seen Andrew's post. He gave you the answer and he is the official answer.