Opposite of Easy to Read

[GnomesofZurich]

The Easy to Read disadvantage gives others bonuses to determine your intentions and to detect when you are lying. I'm trying to figure out an advantage to do the opposite.

Existing advantages that I've considered but that don't seem to quite fit the bill include: Indomitable, Metabolism Control, Obscure and Resistant.

How would you model this? Simply create a new advantage, Hard to Read, that gives penalties rather than bonuses?

[Anders]

I'd go with Obscure. It's what fits best. A -50% limitation for being limited to part of a sense. That makes Immunity (-10) cost 10 points, which looks right when compared to Immunity.

[weby]

I went with creating a new advantage.

[Anders]

Originally Posted by weby

I went with creating a new advantage.

A leveled perk would make sense. Again, 10 points for Immunity (-10 TDM) feels right to me.

[JMason]

Doesn't Honest Face do exactly this?

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by JMason

Doesn't Honest Face do exactly this?

No. It gives you +1 to Acting, for acting innocent, and people tend to assume that you're honest and not a troublemaker. But that's all.

[weby]

Originally Posted by Anders

I'd go with Obscure. It's what fits best. A -50% limitation for being limited to part of a sense. That makes Immunity (-10) cost 10 points, which looks right when compared to Immunity.

Originally Posted by Anders

A leveled perk would make sense. Again, 10 points for Immunity (-10 TDM) feels right to me.

For obscure you have a lot of related things it helps against so that would point to several +20% things.

As for perk: It seems like a overly power perk to influence so many things. Compare to the more limited honest face perk as example.

And as a third think most disadvantages in GURPS seem to be either priced at less points than the corresponding advantage or the same points.

After thinking about what would be correct price I finally went with the same price effect at 10 points for the many -4/+4s. It does feel a bit low, but close enough so I went with it.

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by GnomesofZurich

The Easy to Read disadvantage gives others bonuses to determine your intentions and to detect when you are lying. I'm trying to figure out an advantage to do the opposite.

Existing advantages that I've considered but that don't seem to quite fit the bill include: Indomitable, Metabolism Control, Obscure and Resistant.

How would you model this? Simply create a new advantage, Hard to Read, that gives penalties rather than bonuses?

How about just a Talent? Seems like the "I'm good at a few related skills" would be best served by raising the related skills.

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by DouglasCole

How about just a Talent? Seems like the "I'm good at a few related skills" would be best served by raising the related skills.

The trouble is that Easy to Read gives bonuses to the skills of the person trying to see through you. Hard to Read logically should give penalties. There are no Talents that modify other people's skills.

That also rules out Resistance modifiers; the Easy to Read doesn't just penalize rolls of your own that could be defined as "resistance rolls."

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by whswhs

The trouble is that Easy to Read gives bonuses to the skills of the person trying to see through you. Hard to Read logically should give penalties. There are no Talents that modify other people's skills.

That also rules out Resistance modifiers; the Easy to Read doesn't just penalize rolls of your own that could be defined as "resistance rolls."

I'll have to look at my books for the resolution mechanic; it seems to me that this is a prime candidate for a Quick Contest, in which case it can be phrased as increasing/decreasing the margin of success of the contest, and it really doesn't matter where they penalties are assigned. If it's an unopposed roll, well, that's just darn odd. "I'm better at X" is most often modeled well by actually being better at X, though I'll grant that the imposition of penalties to others is not well modeled by a Talent.