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Old 07-07-2018, 05:17 AM   #1
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I was going through and getting details on as many of the worlds listed over on Gurpswiki when I noticed an interesting aspect regarding Red Moon.

Quantum: 5
ok its in Homeline's own back yard no biggy

"To pursue this gambit, Centrum has implanted several agents within both theKremlin and Baikonur"

Something is wonked here as Centrum is supposed only get access to Quanta as low as Quantum 6.

"Reich-5; The Nazis have landed in Red Moon but are playing this one very carefully, which is why neither the Infinity Patrol nor Centrum have spotted them just yet."

Houston, we have a problem. Obvious jokes aside having Reich-5 who is supposed to be limited to only Quantum 3 running around in Quantum 5 is beyond scary.

Given no comment is made of these facts, especially Centrum being in Quantum 5, I have concluded that this is a Quantum Anomaly that somehow coexists in Q3 and somewhere in the Q6-7 band as well as its native Q5.
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:12 PM   #2
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Given no comment is made of these facts, especially Centrum being in Quantum 5, I have concluded that this is a Quantum Anomaly that somehow coexists in Q3 and somewhere in the Q6-7 band as well as its native Q5.
It could be, or Centrum and Reich-5 each found separate quantum anomalies that allow them to access Q5. Either way, this is a bad thing for Homeline, as a Centrum on Q5 has a chance to take the war to them.
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Old 07-13-2018, 05:58 PM   #3
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Given no comment is made of these facts, especially Centrum being in Quantum 5, I have concluded that this is a Quantum Anomaly that somehow coexists in Q3 and somewhere in the Q6-7 band as well as its native Q5.
It could be, or Centrum and Reich-5 each found separate quantum anomalies that allow them to access Q5. Either way, this is a bad thing for Homeline, as a Centrum on Q5 has a chance to take the war to them.
Unlikely as it is stated "The Infinity Patrol is monitoring this timeline closely, as they know that Centrum is very interested in it, though they aren’t sure why."

If Red Moon was known to be in Q5 then Infinity Patrol's reaction would be very different. Instead it is a textbook example of the reaction one sees with Q6-7 realities where Centrum is.

More over Centrum seems more interested in this reality itself then trying to use the fact it is in Q5 implying they don't know it is in Q5 either.

No mention of Reich-5 being able to access a would outside of its normal Q3 backyard is made...almost as if they don't know what they have either.

By Occam's Razor Red Moon itself being a Quantum Anomaly is the simplest solution.

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Old 07-14-2018, 12:14 AM   #4
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You really need to go back and read Infinite Worlds again because the rules about Quantum's only apply to Conveyors, which the Raven Division not not have, but they even lack they knowledge that they exist, can be built, or any inklings of the physics associated with them, so the Raven Division when asked about Quantum's will respond with a blank face. So ignoring Banestorms, which are unpredictable and uncontrollable and thus aren't usable as a way to get around, lets look at all the other ways to get around the Infinite Worlds.

Every world in IW has at least one Nexus Portal [IW78] that leads to another world, assuming that the portal is two-way this makes an efficient way to get between two worlds.

Dimensional Highways [IW79] are a string of worlds with identical Nexus Portals. The Raven Division has confirmed access to what they have named the Chronobahn, which is really TWO such highways with a clearly parked path.

Magic can allow you to travel between worlds, this is how both Technomancer's CIA and Infinite Cabal move around.

Psionic Powers allow you to worldjump, in fact the Raven Division got it's foot in the door by examining the body of a Russian Spetsnaz member who had latent genetics.

And those are just the ones we know about!!
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You really need to go back and read Infinite Worlds again because the rules about Quantum's only apply to Conveyors, which the Raven Division not not have, but they even lack they knowledge that they exist, can be built, or any inklings of the physics associated with them, so the Raven Division when asked about Quantum's will respond with a blank face. So ignoring Banestorms, which are unpredictable and uncontrollable and thus aren't usable as a way to get around, lets look at all the other ways to get around the Infinite Worlds.
You are forgetting that the whole reason Reich-5 went reality hoping was due to Evgeny Karashkin's mission going south. "Slowly, Pauder’s team made progress in unlocking the parachronic secrets held in the subconscious minds of the three surviving Spetsnaz troopers, and (some said) from the dead ones as well." (IW 65)

It was easier for Reich-5 to create single quantum world jumpers then develop parachronics but they are well aware of them, Quantum, and how the equipment (which they don't have) works.

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Every world in IW has at least one Nexus Portal [IW78] that leads to another world, assuming that the portal is two-way this makes an efficient way to get between two worlds.
There are too many variables for Reich-5 to mess with those as they would first have to find one and then find out where it went especially with more reliable methods available to them.

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Dimensional Highways [IW79] are a string of worlds with identical Nexus Portals. The Raven Division has confirmed access to what they have named the Chronobahn, which is really TWO such highways with a clearly parked path.
The Chronobahn runs through Quantum 3 so barring them Raven Division finding another Dimensional Highway that accesses Q5 that is a non starter.

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Magic can allow you to travel between worlds, this is how both Technomancer's CIA and Infinite Cabal move around.
Red Moon is a no mana reality that that majorly limits what kind of magic can be used there. The Cabel may have access to Power Investiture but they seem to be more Magery focused.

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Psionic Powers allow you to worldjump, in fact the Raven Division got it's foot in the door by examining the body of a Russian Spetsnaz member who had latent genetics.
Who led them to three Homeliners from whom they learned the existence of parallel worlds and about parachronic equipment. Sure they don't have a working machine and only a vague idea on the theory behind them but they are aware of the fundamentals.

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And those are just the ones we know about!!
None of which explains why Infinity is treating Centrum being in Red Moon (ie Q5) as if it is a minor concern. More over Infinity wouldn't be wondering why Centrum is interested in the reality; the fact it is in Q5 would be reason enough as it means that somehow someway Centrum has access to the Quantum Homeline is in.

Instead Infinity is treating it as if it is no big deal...as it they think Red Moon is in Q6-7. Centrum is acting the same way only seeking to "steal something from this timeline’s Mars that does not exist on their own" rather then going 'hey we can access Q5; lets see what's else is here'. So they are also treating Red Moon as if it is in Q6-7.
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