Bionic eye and Blindness

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by JMD

Well if they get damaged enough or miss a repair cycle they stop working.

So do mine.
Also, while maintenance sounds harsh, for our bodies, we just call it hygiene.

[JMD]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

So do mine.
Also, while maintenance sounds harsh, for our bodies, we just call it hygiene.

Exactly.

But should that mean he gets that mitigator? How should that build read?

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

So do mine.
Also, while maintenance sounds harsh, for our bodies, we just call it hygiene.

Does it require a trained technician with a specialized skill with our bodies? (Usually only rarely, if we count optional regular medical check-ups.)

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by JMD

Its actually just the normal build directly from Ultra Tech pg 209.

Ah. I may have to buy the digital version (of Ultra-Tech) so I can look it up now instead of waiting until I get home...

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

So do mine.
Also, while maintenance sounds harsh, for our bodies, we just call it hygiene.

Your body has evolved to do a lot of self-maintenance, and even some limited self-repair. AFAIK self-repairing cybernetics (not bio-implants) is TL11'ish.

[Gef]

To the original question: For metatraits in general, such as racial templates or bionic eyes, I count the NET cost toward the limit for individual disads, if the net is negative. In the case you raised, that would mean -1 toward your limit of -30.

To the ancillary question: Yes, mechanical eyes should have drawbacks relative to real eyes in order to qualify for a disad. Sensitivity to electrical surges and microwave ovens certainly qualifies, as does a maintenance requirement. The maintenance need not be especially complex, for if it must be done with the eyes removed or otherwise offline, then the owner cannot do it himself.

-GEF

[JMD]

Originally Posted by Gef

To the original question: For metatraits in general, such as racial templates or bionic eyes, I count the NET cost toward the limit for individual disads, if the net is negative. In the case you raised, that would mean -1 toward your limit of -30.

Hey someone actually answered the question I care about! :)

I was thinking the same thing, but the sentence at the beginning of the ultra tech cybernetic section pg 207: "Cybernetic replacement parts for specific body locations are bought as a crippling disadvantage with the Mitigator (-70%) limitation."

So...the -1 is the disad you write down, or the -15?

[cccwebs]

Originally Posted by JMD

Hey someone actually answered the question I care about! :)

I was thinking the same thing, but the sentence at the beginning of the ultra tech cybernetic section pg 207: "Cybernetic replacement parts for specific body locations are bought as a crippling disadvantage with the Mitigator (-70%) limitation."

So...the -1 is the disad you write down, or the -15?

You write down "Two Bionic Eyes, -1 point". As Gef pointed out, cybernetics are a Meta-Trait.

[nerdvana]

Originally Posted by JMD

So...the -1 is the disad you write down, or the -15?

As others have said, yes that's exactly right. Sorry for the tangent then, your question did not seem to lead to that question when I read it.

[zorg]

Originally Posted by nerdvana

...but perhaps the Blind/Not Blind idea hadn't seeped into semi-canon yet?

From here:

Originally Posted by me

#3: Is the construct "Disadvantage + Not Disadvantage" legal according to the rules?

Originally Posted by Kromm

No. It falls into the forbidden zone of Negated Disadvantages (p. B120).