09-09-2013, 05:35 AM | #21 |
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Re: Skills for AIs and robots
I'm a touch confused about what Ultratech for 4e says about skills versus what is possible per the rules...
Pages 23 and 25 seem to contain the money quotes in that the computer's IQ is tied directly to the complexity of the program running the AI software, and that later on, under taboo traits, the IQ of the AI is directly limited by the complexity of the computer itself. Then - as if that weren't enough, I see that software that grants a bonus to skill, is based upon whether it grants a +0, +1, or +2. Wouldn't that be the limiting factor for skills, or in the event that the skills can be programs, that they start off at skill 12 and require higher complexities in order to be higher skill levels? Just musing aloud.
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09-09-2013, 05:42 AM | #22 |
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Re: Skills for AIs and robots
This is pretty specifically for programs that provide a bonus to a human using the computer, not the skill of an AI itself. It's similar to allowing a complementary skill to add +1 or +2 to another character's roll, or how a fine piece of equipment can give a bonus to some tasks.
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09-09-2013, 07:20 AM | #23 | |
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How good are the AIs compared to human crew in terms of skill? In terms of cost? How good is PD vs ballistics? Is ship to ship combat determined by beams (PD Dominates), ballistics (PD cannot stop a missile volley), or a mixed strategy? |
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09-09-2013, 10:52 AM | #24 | |
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If there are no rules for complexity ratings for AI skills as far as programs filling in for skills, then either the AI's programming itself permits for the integration of skills directly into its matrix programming (ie the AI software itself), or it requires that each skill be treated as a program, and that the limits on what programs/skills it can learn is based solely upon the complexity of the computer, not the IQ of the computer. It seems decidedly odd that ULTRATECH doesn't have those specific rules, yet GURPS ROBOTS do. <shrug>
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09-09-2013, 11:06 AM | #26 |
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Re: Skills for AIs and robots
The problem with complexity limits on skills is that an AI with the same complexity of the human brain and the same general performance should have the same skill limits, and GURPS doesn't put any limit on human skill levels (this is actually a problem with AI IQ, as well; human brain complexity varies by well under 1 point).
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09-09-2013, 02:21 PM | #28 | |
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problem is - people doing research into the human brain are beginning to suspect that there is a LOT more going on beneath the surface than originally thought, and that the neuron connections, being three-dimensional, are more complex. In the end? If the Game Master wants positronic brains that are equal to flesh and blood brains, that's the way the cookie crumbles. If the GM wants to develop their own rules to fill avoid left by the authors - you KNOW I'm all for it! But you also know, that I Loathe the idea of treating robots as characters and that they should be built on character points rather than a set of rules not unlike those found in GURPS ROBOTS. I loathe the idea of building starships on character points, cars on character points, etc. But, that's just me...
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09-09-2013, 06:11 PM | #29 |
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09-09-2013, 06:16 PM | #30 |
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