Hobbit Stone Throwing?

Dorin Thorha · 02-02-2010, 06:32 AM

In The Hobbit, Bilbo seems to be able to knock giant spiders senseless with a single stone throw. In the movie Merry and Pippin do the same to armored Uruks. Is there any way for thrown stones to be a viable weapon for a character who doesn't have huge ST?

Collective_Restraint · 02-02-2010, 06:40 AM

Well, High Skill in it would enable them to hit less armored hit locations. Don't forget that everytime you hit Head Locations (Face or Skull), even if you didn't deal enough damage to do a Major Wound, it still warrants for a HT check to avoid being knocked down and stunned. If you want to go with Cinematic, I guess something along with Striking ST with a limitation (only with thrown stones).

Dorin Thorha · 02-02-2010, 06:55 AM

The Two Towers shows an Uruk take a hit to his steel helmet and fall senseless. But as far as I can see that attack should have had a small chance of doing any damage at all, even before armor.

nik1979 · 02-02-2010, 06:55 AM

Hitting the Head or Vitals and dealing enough damage to give a shock penalty causes an HT roll. B420 and B419.

A head shot B399
Skull (DR 2) has a -10 to knockdown and stun HT roll in B420
Face has a -5 to knockdown and stun HT roll in B420
Eyes Injury greater than HP/10 blinds the eye. I would recommend an appropriate Fear Check at -5 to -10.

If the hobbits are assumed to hit the face for 1cp of damage (assuming open faced helms) then 1cp of crushing damage would give orcs HT-5 vs stun/knockdown.

Dorin Thorha · 02-02-2010, 06:59 AM

A hit to the face ought to do it, thanks. Although in the movie Pippen gets a hit on the Uruk's forehead, and was probably going up against at least DR 5...

Collective_Restraint · 02-02-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nik1979

Hitting the Head or Vitals and dealing enough damage to give a shock penalty causes an HT roll. B420 and B419.

A head shot B399
Skull (DR 2) has a -10 to knockdown and stun HT roll in B420
Face has a -5 to knockdown and stun HT roll in B420
Eyes Injury greater than HP/10 blinds the eye. I would recommend an appropriate Fear Check at -5 to -10.

If the hobbits are assumed to hit the face for 1cp of damage (assuming open faced helms) then 1cp of crushing damage would give orcs HT-5 vs stun/knockdown.

?? I thought that Skull or Face hits forces you to check against HT and you only get the penalties on Major Wounds on these hit locations ? For example: normal hit to the Skull = check against HT and major wound to the Skull = check against HT -10 ?

Dorin Thorha · 02-02-2010, 07:00 AM

The only problem is that a average-sized stone thrown by a Hobbit, who probably has ST 8 or 9, would be doing 1d-4 or worse.

Dorin Thorha · 02-02-2010, 07:04 AM

Maybe it could be done as a specialty of Throwing Art (only small, baseball sized objects) that doesn't require TBAM.

roguebfl · 02-02-2010, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorin Thorha

Maybe it could be done as a specialty of Throwing Art (only small, baseball sized objects) that doesn't require TBAM.

Or rather a racial perk "racial skill mastery (thrwoing art)" which counts as TBAM for that skill

Anaraxes · 02-02-2010, 07:22 AM

Weapon Master (rock)
Striking ST (thrown rocks only)
Imbuement (I don't have that one, but there's probably something to grant the rock an armor divisor or stunning)
Affliction (stun; requires to-hit roll with rock)

02-02-2010, 06:32 AM	#1
Dorin Thorha Join Date: Oct 2009	Hobbit Stone Throwing? In The Hobbit, Bilbo seems to be able to knock giant spiders senseless with a single stone throw. In the movie Merry and Pippin do the same to armored Uruks. Is there any way for thrown stones to be a viable weapon for a character who doesn't have huge ST? __________________ <><

02-02-2010, 06:40 AM	#2
Collective_Restraint Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? Well, High Skill in it would enable them to hit less armored hit locations. Don't forget that everytime you hit Head Locations (Face or Skull), even if you didn't deal enough damage to do a Major Wound, it still warrants for a HT check to avoid being knocked down and stunned. If you want to go with Cinematic, I guess something along with Striking ST with a limitation (only with thrown stones). __________________ Collective Restraint For GURPS 4E Game Aids, visit my site!

02-02-2010, 06:55 AM	#3
Dorin Thorha Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? The Two Towers shows an Uruk take a hit to his steel helmet and fall senseless. But as far as I can see that attack should have had a small chance of doing any damage at all, even before armor. __________________ <><

02-02-2010, 06:55 AM	#4
nik1979 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Philippines, Makati	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? Hitting the Head or Vitals and dealing enough damage to give a shock penalty causes an HT roll. B420 and B419. A head shot B399 Skull (DR 2) has a -10 to knockdown and stun HT roll in B420 Face has a -5 to knockdown and stun HT roll in B420 Eyes Injury greater than HP/10 blinds the eye. I would recommend an appropriate Fear Check at -5 to -10. If the hobbits are assumed to hit the face for 1cp of damage (assuming open faced helms) then 1cp of crushing damage would give orcs HT-5 vs stun/knockdown. __________________ GMing Blog MIB#2428

02-02-2010, 06:59 AM	#5
Dorin Thorha Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? A hit to the face ought to do it, thanks. Although in the movie Pippen gets a hit on the Uruk's forehead, and was probably going up against at least DR 5... __________________ <><

02-02-2010, 07:00 AM	#7
Dorin Thorha Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? The only problem is that a average-sized stone thrown by a Hobbit, who probably has ST 8 or 9, would be doing 1d-4 or worse. __________________ <><

02-02-2010, 07:04 AM	#8
Dorin Thorha Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? Maybe it could be done as a specialty of Throwing Art (only small, baseball sized objects) that doesn't require TBAM. __________________ <><

02-02-2010, 07:22 AM	#10
Anaraxes Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Hobbit Stone Throwing? Weapon Master (rock) Striking ST (thrown rocks only) Imbuement (I don't have that one, but there's probably something to grant the rock an armor divisor or stunning) Affliction (stun; requires to-hit roll with rock)