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You could also throw one from each hand every turn. Instead of rapid strike, that's just like dual attack. Both are at -4 and your off-hand is at an additional -4. I would let Extra Attack remove the -4 penalty, so you would just need to buy Off-Hand Weapon Training (Perk) to remove the other -4. This doesn't eliminate the need to ready the items (with fast draw or normally), but it will let you strike faster when you have items to strike with. Quote:
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09-17-2007, 09:38 PM | #32 | |
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Ironically, the problem is going to go away in a few months anyway: The GM announced that he was ending the campaign, so I signed on for another GM's Call of Cthulhu campaign (in fact, I helped talk her into running it), and now that the GM on the first campaign has reversed his decision—well, I don't have time to play in three campaigns a month, so I'll need to drop. A shame, in a way; for all the rules problems, La Gata Encantada has been a tremendous amount of fun to play. Bill Stoddard |
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Since Bill's problem has been solved, I'm only keeping a little bit of what I had prepared.
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Well, maybe it is. We're having trouble with one small aspect of Extra Attack. And it's where we have to make a ready before each attack. That's, inherently, a disadvantage built into the system. It's there to keep the munchkins at bay (amongst other fiddling things, like reality). If you have a pair of guns and I run out of ammo and I should be able to swap guns while attacking (obviously reloading would be too involved). If I'm attacking with two swords and one of my swords gets knocked out of my hand, I should be able to prepare a third sword, assuming one was easily available (recovering the other sword would be too involved). Neither of those seem too terribly over-powered for this advantage. And neither would require the fast-draw skill. Quote:
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09-17-2007, 10:55 PM | #34 | |
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Now she buys Fast-Draw. She can pick up and throw two balls a turn, every turn. Net rate, 12 throws in 6 seconds. But neither lets her do the simple trick of "pick up a ball and throw it, pick up a ball and throw it," second by second, for 6 throws in 6 seconds. Fortunately, Kromm's suggested fix resolves that. It could also have been resolved had I started her out with Fast-Draw and no Extra Attack—but that would get in the way of her melee style, which is what I was originally trying to design. Bill Stoddard |
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09-17-2007, 11:02 PM | #35 | |
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I know you can run the numbers, Bill, so I'm just pointing it out for the gallery. Fast-draw *is* a middle ground here, except for exceptional characters for whom a 1-point investment in Fast-Draw nets them a high enough level of skill that this rate (12 successful fastdraws in 12 attempts) is a likelihood.
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09-18-2007, 05:45 AM | #36 |
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Re: Rules puzzle: Extra Attack and readying
Regarding the discussion of Extra Attack itself; myself and all my players have always interpreted it as only granting it's benefits on maneuvers in which the character can attack already. This comes from the part of the advantage that states something like "a normal person can attack once per turn, this advantage lets you attack more". This made the most sense. We figured that an alternate interpretation, like Mark's in this thread, probably would have been worded differently.
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09-18-2007, 06:52 AM | #37 |
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Yeah. Re-reading the text, I can kind of see how someone might be able to interpret it the other way, but the context seems to heavily imply that you only get an extra attack on maneuvers that let you attack already. Always played that way, and it never occured to me that someone might read it differently. Kind of like the whole confusion earlier about the exact amount of damage it took to cripple/dismember limbs...
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