Update 1.5.13.3?

[Andrew Hackard]

Reviewing the reviews is an Inception-style hole we do not need to explore. Please focus your commentary on the game itself, not other people's opinions of the game (especially if they aren't on this site; cross-site drama is REALLY not welcome).

[TheAmishStig]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

Reviewing the reviews is an Inception-style hole we do not need to explore. Please focus your commentary on the game itself, not other people's opinions of the game (especially if they aren't on this site; cross-site drama is REALLY not welcome).

Duly noted, Andrew...it's not my intention to do anything more than acknowledge the negativity exists, lament it, and move on.

[ColBosch]

See, I was always under the impression that Ogre - i.e., Mk. III or Mk. V Attack scenarios on the orange map - was the "Gold" standard, and that everything else was to be considered in Beta as they tweak it. This is a niche product for a small audience, and its sales have reflected this. Of course Auroch is taking on other projects alongside Ogre: they can't afford not to.

[GranitePenguin]

Originally Posted by ColBosch

See, I was always under the impression that Ogre - i.e., Mk. III or Mk. V Attack scenarios on the orange map - was the "Gold" standard, and that everything else was to be considered in Beta as they tweak it. This is a niche product for a small audience, and its sales have reflected this. Of course Auroch is taking on other projects alongside Ogre: they can't afford not to.

Except that's not what happened. The Classic Orange Map stuff didn't work right at release, either. It may be a niche product, but the issues even with the basic game didn't help bring new people to the table.

[AurochJake]

Originally Posted by GranitePenguin

Except that's not what happened. The Classic Orange Map stuff didn't work right at release, either. It may be a niche product, but the issues even with the basic game didn't help bring new people to the table.

Fair observation there GranitePenguin - we're aware there were issues at launch and we did our best to get the most serious of these addressed as quickly as possible, and lots of work has gone into ironing out the creases since then.

We're aware of the outstanding issues and will continue to improve the game, but the vast majority of the game and its functionality should be working in its current state.

As always, if anyone comes across issues, it's important that they are reported with relevant logs, screenshots and as much information on how the issue appears and was caused, if possible :)

Thanks everyone.

[GranitePenguin]

Originally Posted by AurochJake

Fair observation there GranitePenguin - we're aware there were issues at launch and we did our best to get the most serious of these addressed as quickly as possible, and lots of work has gone into ironing out the creases since then.

We're aware of the outstanding issues and will continue to improve the game, but the vast majority of the game and its functionality should be working in its current state.

As always, if anyone comes across issues, it's important that they are reported with relevant logs, screenshots and as much information on how the issue appears and was caused, if possible :)

Thanks everyone.

Ultimately, what it could have been, should have been, etc is immaterial. The facts of what it actually is are what matter. Regardless of the warts, you guys did a very solid job fixing the biggest issues with the gameplay in a reasonable amount of time.

My main concern is that the list of already-known issues that have not been addressed yet get the attention they deserve. There are key items, primarily around terrain behavior, that have not been fixed yet that really _need_ to be fixed to be able to call the game portion complete.

[Steve Jackson]

Would it be constructive to repost that list just to make sure it squares with what Jake and the Auroch team are looking at?

[GranitePenguin]

Originally Posted by Steve Jackson

Would it be constructive to repost that list just to make sure it squares with what Jake and the Auroch team are looking at?

I plan to go through the emails I’ve sent and try to validate what appears to still be outstanding. It is a long list (100+ emails), so it will take a little while to lay out exactly what’s left unresolved.

[GranitePenguin]

In a perfect world, I’d like to sort by severity too.

[GranitePenguin]

Looks like the Mac version updated to 1.5.13.3, too. :-)