08-31-2014, 10:52 AM | #11 | |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
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Forcing someone to rely on a cinematic skill to resist Body Language and Detect Lies seems very fishy from a gaming perspective too. |
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08-31-2014, 11:01 AM | #12 | |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
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08-31-2014, 11:19 AM | #13 |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
More a description of all movements of the face and body that humans can't detect than anything specific, I would say.
If a program can detect something we can't, then I'm fine calling them such things.
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08-31-2014, 11:21 AM | #14 | |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
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Acting can resist Body Language or Detect Lies (BL/DL), with a contest of skills, as per RAW. Body Control might have a serious advantage in such a contest. A success could just mean that BL/DL didn't work at all, or could enable actively misleading them with a contest of skills. |
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08-31-2014, 11:40 AM | #15 |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
It's at least as realistic as microexpressions are. The whole point of Body Language, face-reading, etc. is to be informed about the subject's emotional state in a given context, and it's not as if people can't manipulate their own emotions, or distract themselves with painful stimuli or memories, or have poor laaguage skills most of the other tricks and dodges from BLADE RUNNER-related properties.
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08-31-2014, 07:06 PM | #16 |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
I'd let someone roll against Body Control as a complimentary skill to Acting when resisting Detect Lies and Body Language. Not sure about just rolling against Body Control on its own. Maybe a Will-based roll to resist polygraphs?
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08-31-2014, 08:58 PM | #17 | |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
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Even if they do mean something, they mean that the person has a thought (that they may not even be consciously aware of) about something briefly that causes an emotional response, it isn't necessarily relevant to anything they are saying or that the interrogator is interested in. |
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08-31-2014, 09:06 PM | #18 |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
I meant my posts to refer to emotional states only, not complex lies and subtle deception.
The real research is geared toward pain identification in hospital settings. Identify the drug seekers and how much to treat actual pain. I personally was mocked by two nurses in the E.R. for complaining about my sore throat. It was one of the worst pains of my life.
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09-01-2014, 05:32 AM | #19 | |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
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As for resisting polygraph, maybe I'd even go further, such as making it skill+2 to +5, since it's a pretty rare skill that allows rather fine control of body functions. I mean, it better be good compared just using straight Will even after a minimal point investment. Besides, opponents can always decide to ditch the polygraph entirely, particularly if they have Intuition. Last edited by vicky_molokh; 09-01-2014 at 08:54 AM. |
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09-01-2014, 08:48 AM | #20 | |
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Re: [Basic] Skill of the week: Body Control
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[EDIT] Actually, thinking more about this, if you were to take Resistant to Polygraphs (+3), it'd run [2]. So that's Will+3 for 2 points, as opposed to Will+3 for [16] with Body Control (Polygraph Results). Perhaps screwing with a polygraph should fall under not-typically-stressful routine use category that anyone with the skill should be able to accomplish. Give fooling a polygraph a +4 bonus, so that with 2 points in it, you pop out at attribute+3.
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