Shotgun Slugs

[Six_Gun_Sam]

Originally Posted by WasteAid

...swap out the Tungsten dart with silver (or maybe a silver slug) for Werewolves, and with wood for Vampires. Shotguns are so useful. . .

How I do love the 12 gauge shotgun.

You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades.
You can empty out a shell and refill it with jello.

Hell, You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades and jello.

A true weapon for all occasions.

[copeab]

Originally Posted by Six_Gun_Sam

How I do love the 12 gauge shotgun.

You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades.
You can empty out a shell and refill it with jello.

Hell, You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades and jello.

A true weapon for all occasions.

The multiple payloads are a large part of the reason that shotguns are favored over assault rifles in most of my campaigns.

Brandon

[Rupert]

Originally Posted by Sam Cade

Dedicated slug guns shoot in the 2 to 4moa range.
Rifled slugs through a smoothbore IME shoot 4 to 6moa on average, with the exceptional gun,choke, and load combo that will shoot as well as a rifled gun.

That puts them nicely in the Acc4 category.

[HANS]

>So a 437gr slug, 18.5mm, 1585fps should do about 5d damage. Clearly it's pi++ due to size.

Yep. A 12-gauge 2.75" slug does 4d+2 pi++ in GURPS HIGH-TECH 4e. A 12-gauge 3" Magnum would get about 5d pi++.

>For shot, some large buckshot is pi (00 and 000 buck); everything else is pi- or smaller, per pellet.

Almost. 0 Buck to 0000 Buck is pi; everything else pi-. That is a mistake in GURPS BASIC SET (they sample loads there are of course meant to be 00 Buck). I notified the errata coordinator a long time ago, but he has not responded yet. Anyway, this is what HIGH-TECH says.

Cheers

HANS

[lwcamp]

Originally Posted by WasteAid

How should the damage for shotgun slugs be figured in 4e?

also any thoughts on other shotgun ammo related subjects would be appreciated such as: Rifled shotguns (deer guns), Saboted slugs, Military rounds (flechette), or special purpose rounds (bean bag or lock breaching)

Thanx

For my games, I have
10G slug: 6d pi++
12 G slug: 5d pi++
20 G slug: 4d+1 pi++

(well, almost, I've got some funky house rules, so the damages are 1dx6, 1dx5, and 1dx4+1, respectively, with some wierdness for the piercing damage, but the above is as close as it gets for standard GURPS).

I hope this helps,

Luke

[WasteAid]

"You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades.
You can empty out a shell and refill it with jello.

Hell, You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades and jello."

I saw a history channel show on Billy the Kid where they tried to recreate his legendary Kill using a shell filled with silver dimes. Even from close range they found this loading to be ineffective. I hated to see that because I always thought that would be a good Werewolf load. Unfortunately then razorblades and jello would probably also be good only for dramatic effect without doing much lasting damage. . . .'cept maybe the eyes. . .

[cybermancer2k1]

Originally Posted by WasteAid

For rouge cyborgs you could use the APDS rounds described on Gurps 4e pg. 280, swap out the Tungsten dart with silver (or maybe a silver slug) for Werewolves, and with wood for Vampires. Shotguns are so useful. . .

"Rouge cyborgs"? Why did I get a mental image of RoboCop with rosy cheeks? ;)

(Sorry; I know you meant "rogue," but the effect of the painkillers in me right now made it too easy...)

[WasteAid]

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Rouge cyborgs"? Why did I get a mental image of RoboCop with rosy cheeks? ;)

(Sorry; I know you meant "rogue," but the effect of the painkillers in me right now made it too easy...)

It's the red paint job that makes 'em go bad, don't cha know. :)

[AmesJainchill]

Originally Posted by Six_Gun_Sam

How I do love the 12 gauge shotgun.

You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades.
You can empty out a shell and refill it with jello.

Hell, You can empty out a shell and refill it with razorblades and jello.

A true weapon for all occasions.

Now that's a good time.

[Six_Gun_Sam]

Originally Posted by WasteAid

I saw a history channel show on Billy the Kid where they tried to recreate his legendary Kill using a shell filled with silver dimes. Even from close range they found this loading to be ineffective.

I guess his target must of died of fright!