12-13-2017, 06:30 AM | #11 |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
This is not the case so far as I can tell. B380 and B419 don't mention it.
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12-13-2017, 11:56 AM | #12 | |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
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If it helps think of it this way, some HT rolls are the result of damage taken and other HT rolls are the results of the player's activity. Damage related rolls occur when the damage is inflicted and the other sort when the player attempts the risky action i.e. when he tries to take actions other than Do Nothing when at 0 HP or less.
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12-13-2017, 12:25 PM | #13 | |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
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It's in the unofficial FAQ. http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=43 And I see this is how it's written in Discworld, too. Don't have DFRPG handy to check. |
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12-13-2017, 12:32 PM | #14 | |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
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The Exception (Do Nothing) occurs structurally after the line: "Success means you can act normally, but must roll again every turn to continue functioning." The implication being that the Exception pertains to the 'every turn' rolls, not the initial "now that you're at or below 0 HP roll". Last edited by evileeyore; 12-14-2017 at 12:25 AM. |
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12-14-2017, 10:12 AM | #15 | |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
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B380 says "If you have zero or fewer HP left, you are hanging onto consciousness through sheer willpower and adrenaline – or are barely holding together, if you’re a machine. You must roll vs. HT each turn to avoid falling unconscious.", which is a little more ambiguous, but still says nothing about rolling as soon as you hit 0HP. What's more the example on B419 does not show a roll being required at the instant Frederick hits 0HP. I can't see the FAQ/Errata as being anything other than a change to the rules. The new Dungeon Fantasy rules do imply an immediate roll, saying "In addition the above effects, you must roll vs. HT every turn (including the one on which you were injured)", but the parenthetical text is not in GURPS proper.
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12-14-2017, 10:13 AM | #16 | |
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12-14-2017, 11:23 AM | #17 |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
See Stun is Fun in GURPS Horror.
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12-14-2017, 01:28 PM | #18 |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
I'm now feeling less sloppy about not noticing the shift in 4e, since I now think I get that I was confused this was about 4e in general, but that the question of this thread seems to be about a rule change in DFRPG, not the way it's listed in 4e Basic.
That is, in my 4e Basic Set, I am not seeing a benefit of Do Nothing. The description of Do Nothing on B364 doesn't say anything about getting out of consciousness checks. The Effects of Injury section on B380 says <0 HP you have to roll every turn to stay conscious. (And the Major Wound rule gives a HT roll where a miss by 5 causes immediate unconsciousness.) |
12-14-2017, 01:35 PM | #19 | |
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Re: Is Doing Nothing to avoid consciousness HT check an option when Stunned?
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The only relevant "change" in Dungeon Fantasy is the clarification of "including the one on which you were injured" and that isn't a new rule, but just a clearer statement of the intent of the GURPS rule (as stated in the FAQ). Last edited by sir_pudding; 12-14-2017 at 02:00 PM. |
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12-14-2017, 04:21 PM | #20 | |
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