Price of Aluminum of Yrth? - Page 2

Flyndaran · 10-13-2016, 08:06 PM

With only a few grams of iron in an entire human body, that's going to take a LOT of killin'.
But if you just care about materials that can be smelted and processed that technically came from living creatures, then you're not bound by much at all.

Flyndaran · 10-13-2016, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by simply Nathan

I find your estimates optimistic.

A quick search says adult men have around 4 grams of iron in their bodies; 70% of that in blood. How many grams of iron in a sword?
I doubt it's more than the hyperbolic 10,000 sacrifices suggested, unless you're only working with anemic babies.

mr beer · 10-13-2016, 08:56 PM

Yeah, you don't need a thousand people to forge a bloodiron sword. Errr...that's what I heard anyway.

ericbsmith · 10-13-2016, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mr beer

Yeah, you don't need a thousand people to forge a bloodiron sword. Errr...that's what I heard anyway.

Psha, need? Who needs only a thousand sacrifices when you can have millions?

Flyndaran · 10-13-2016, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mr beer

Yeah, you don't need a thousand people to forge a bloodiron sword. Errr...that's what I heard anyway.

We aren't including waste though.

But as to aluminum, it really depends on what TL magic boosts effective metallurgy.
It doesn't have to stay at exactly 1800s as valuable as gold levels.
It's more an issue of working backwards. How valuable and rare do you want it to be? Then decide on what techniques/spells mages use to get there.

Warlockco · 10-13-2016, 10:51 PM

Unless you absolutely need a cutting edge on your "sword-staff," a bokken fits the bill perfectly. Its made from wood and wielded just like a katana.

scc · 10-13-2016, 11:16 PM

OK, a few things to say:

1. I figured that at least some would be coming from Earth, and that Mages would be using Shape Metal to get the desired object. There might be local production, but would depend upon demand.

2. As for why I want it, you can enchant something with Staff and then stick an axe head on it, but you don't get optimum use out of it, hitting someone with the axe head doesn't count as touching them with the Staff. For that the axe head must be made of something valuable and included in the enchantment.

As for the booken idea, it's not actually an improvement upon a simple wooden stick, strangely enough.

David Johnston2 · 10-13-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scc

OK, a few things to say:

1. I figured that at least some would be coming from Earth, and that Mages would be using Shape Metal to get the desired object. There might be local production, but would depend upon demand.

2. As for why I want it, you can enchant something with Staff and then stick an axe head on it, but you don't get optimum use out of it, hitting someone with the axe head doesn't count as touching them with the Staff. For that the axe head must be made of something valuable and included in the enchantment.
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Is this some kind of house rule? In any case aluminum wouldn't have a set market value. It would be too rare for that.

scc · 10-14-2016, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Is this some kind of house rule? In any case aluminum wouldn't have a set market value. It would be too rare for that.

Are you talking about the second bit? No, that's in Magic, page 70:

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Any rod-shaped piece of organic material (wood, bone, ivory, etc.) up to 6 feet long. May be decorated with other materials, like gems and precious metals.

David Johnston2 · 10-14-2016, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scc

Are you talking about the second bit? No, that's in Magic, page 70:

<snort> Sure, that axe head is purely decorative.

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Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Price of Aluminum of Yrth? With only a few grams of iron in an entire human body, that's going to take a LOT of killin'. But if you just care about materials that can be smelted and processed that technically came from living creatures, then you're not bound by much at all. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.

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mr beer Join Date: Mar 2013	Re: Price of Aluminum of Yrth? Yeah, you don't need a thousand people to forge a bloodiron sword. Errr...that's what I heard anyway.

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Warlockco Join Date: May 2008 Location: Colorado	Re: Price of Aluminum of Yrth? Unless you absolutely need a cutting edge on your "sword-staff," a bokken fits the bill perfectly. Its made from wood and wielded just like a katana. Last edited by Warlockco; 10-14-2016 at 03:02 AM.

10-13-2016, 11:16 PM	#17
scc Join Date: Mar 2013	Re: Price of Aluminum of Yrth? OK, a few things to say: 1. I figured that at least some would be coming from Earth, and that Mages would be using Shape Metal to get the desired object. There might be local production, but would depend upon demand. 2. As for why I want it, you can enchant something with Staff and then stick an axe head on it, but you don't get optimum use out of it, hitting someone with the axe head doesn't count as touching them with the Staff. For that the axe head must be made of something valuable and included in the enchantment. As for the booken idea, it's not actually an improvement upon a simple wooden stick, strangely enough.