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Old 04-20-2018, 06:47 AM   #1
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Default Drinking and DR

Let's say there's this toxic substance that damages whoever touches or drinks it. The way I read the Blood Agent and Contact Agent limitations is that if you have even one level of Damage Resistance, unless you have the Tough Skin limitation on DR, you are unaffected by such toxins.

But what if you drink it? The way I read DR, it seems as if it's only on the outside. Do I need the Force Field or Cosmic enhancement to deal with that?
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Old 04-20-2018, 06:54 AM   #2
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Drinking it would bypass DR. This would probably be used with Blood Agent as suggested by the Powers book for "Drugs".

Keep in mind DR only protects where the DR protects. You are removing DR when you drink and take off a helmet. You are removing DR when you are submersed without sealed DR. Etc. It would mean you can't just splash it in the face of a person with a helmet though.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:24 AM   #3
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Drinking it would bypass DR. This would probably be used with Blood Agent as suggested by the Powers book for "Drugs".
And how do I enhance the DR advantage so that it protects in this situation?
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:35 AM   #4
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And how do I enhance the DR advantage so that it protects in this situation?
Probably by buying "internal" DR at 1/5 cost. (power-ups 8: limitations page 9)
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:41 AM   #5
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Cosmic enhancement, Defense and countermeasure (+50%), sounds a good way to do it, as you noted it (Basic Set, page 103). Of course, there are surely other ways of doing it*. But it is the simplest one in my humble opinion.

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* Edit : Weby's one, just above for instance. He posted his answer while I was writing mine.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:34 PM   #6
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To resist harmful effects of ingested substances, it's more likely that you want Resistant, up to Immunity to Metabolic Hazards, or perhaps one or more of the Injury Tolerance forms like No Blood (ignores blood-borne toxins).

Yes, sometimes the mechanical effects of poisons and so are are expressed in terms of injury rather than Conditions. But that doesn't really make them direct attacks.

If you do insist on suffering some sort of internally-originating attack from swallowing grenades or whatever, then you want DR (Internal).
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:38 PM   #7
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To resist harmful effects of ingested substances, it's more likely that you want Resistant, up to Immunity to Metabolic Hazards, or perhaps one or more of the Injury Tolerance forms like No Blood (ignores blood-borne toxins).
Immunity will only work for toxic or fatigue damage. Being able to, say, drink acid, or molten lead, or whatever, will require DR.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:47 PM   #8
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I would note that I would put on an extremely dubious face if somebody proposed internal, non-Tough Skin DR on their digestive system. I'm not the GM for this concept, but if you're not you probably want to check with them.
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Immunity will only work for toxic or fatigue damage. Being able to, say, drink acid, or molten lead, or whatever, will require DR.
Those wouldn't be Blood Agent or Contact Agent, though. They just do damage.

Whether Immunity works against, say, 'fire poison' that does burn damage but is nonetheless poison-like in action would be a point for GM consideration, but a yes seems entirely plausible.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:16 PM   #9
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DR is probably the wrong way to go for protecting against ingested or injected toxins. For those you want something like resistant/immune to poisons or metabolic hazards, and/or injury tolerance (unliving, no blood).
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:42 PM   #10
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Immunity will only work for toxic or fatigue damage. Being able to, say, drink acid, or molten lead, or whatever, will require DR.
A red dragon isn’t immune to heartburn from its own breath weapon because of internal DR.
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