10-17-2012, 05:45 PM | #11 | |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
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I have worked in 110 degrees in armor and carrying gear. It's definitely uncomfortable, but a man who is used to the heat and the weight can manage. Again, drink plenty of water and get in the shade whenever you are able. Rest frequently. Don't forget to eat. Get a mule or a camel to carry extra water. A light-colored surcoat might help. Were I a crusader, I'd get a cloth scarf /head covering (keffiyeh/shemagh) like the locals wear. That aint just decoration. |
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10-17-2012, 05:56 PM | #12 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
Another question-
How long has this PC been in the Levant/the Holy Land? Days? Weeks? Longer? * Is he acclimatized? *He could be a native. I don't know what the year is, but of course if it is later then even a 'Frank' could be born in the region. |
10-17-2012, 06:07 PM | #13 | |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
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Technically I woke from a fever, I think I might have been 'here' a week.
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10-17-2012, 07:07 PM | #14 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
Sleep by day, walk by night, when you sleep, sleep inside, or at least with some sun protection.
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10-17-2012, 07:19 PM | #15 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
A full-length scale sariam is heavier and more stifling than any plate armour that the Europeans wore. I've personally worn most heavy types of armour in the middle of an Australian summer with no more trouble than wearing winter clothing. The only real problem you will have is with enclosed helmets - and with these it doesn't matter what the weather is llike.
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10-17-2012, 07:27 PM | #16 |
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The long white surcoat wasn't just for show -- it kept a lot of radiant heat off the armor.
Also, as Mr. Howard noted, a helm or helmet does ramp up the personal heat index. IIRC most Western warriors wore a broad-brimmed hat, most Muslims a large turban or burnoose, to keep the sun off the heat. Doing either should give you some kind of fatigue benefit over straight armor/helmet. |
10-17-2012, 07:27 PM | #17 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
Historically the Crusaders marched in armor. The foot soldiers wore quilted or similar armor. There are accounts of crusader foot soldiers marching along with so many arrows sticking out of them that they looked like porcupines. Mail backed by quilted is very good at protecting one.
In the desert, even the high desert (like Tucson) you do not stay out in the sun all day, you take breaks and drink water or other liquid, preferably in the shade, The lower the humidity, the greater the temperatue differential between sun and shade which helps. Also in the desert seasons other than summer are quite different than you might expect. Winters, and especiall winter nights, can get extremely cold. When I was on active duty here in Tucson I ofter wore my winter gear at night.
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10-17-2012, 09:09 PM | #18 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
Another point about travelling at night- in most desert there are no trees to obscure the night sky- it can actually be quite bright at night from just the stars.
Mechanically: 0- If your worried about ambushes, keep your armour on, but not the helmet. 1- If you need to travel during the day, you go until you are uncomfortable with how much fatigue you have lost, then you stop, rest, drink, and recover your FP, till you can travel again. 2- Travel a lot at sunset to last light, and first light to full sun where heat will be minimal and light levels will still be good. 3- Even travelling at twilight will full starlight (-7) and night vision 2 (-5) you should be able to make good observation rolls (at -5), your enemy will get closer to you before you can see them, but they will have the same problem, consider purchasing a technique for 'night scouting' to get rid of the -5 penalty for looking for threats at night. |
10-17-2012, 10:23 PM | #19 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
Get a hunting dog. He can sniff out Saracens in the dark.
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10-17-2012, 10:28 PM | #20 |
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Re: The Crusades; Light Armor.
Aside from riding and not always wearing their armour, historical warriors had servants to do things like carry their kit and water, tend to their horses, scout for approaching enemies, and so on. Warriors who spent a lot of time in enemy territory expecting a fight at any moment often didn't have much armour. But yes, plenty of warriors have worn full suits of armour in Southwest Asian summer weather, and not many died of it.
The fighting season in Southwest Asia often avoided the height of summer heat as that in northern Europe avoided the winter cold and mud. When they did happen, summer marches were often very short and rest days were frequent.
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