Wind Guardian limit question

hcobb · 12-05-2009, 07:52 PM

Does the Wind Guardian limit prevent the new attunement or does it just (silently?) drop the old one?

And does a guardian of a puppet in a cricket vessel say: "Cherub Cherub"?

robkelk · 12-05-2009, 07:57 PM

I have no idea. What's a "Wind Guardian limit"?

(Just because I own and have read all the books doesn't mean I remember every word in them...)

hcobb · 12-05-2009, 08:05 PM

GIN92: "can only attune themselves to one human at a time"

robkelk · 12-05-2009, 08:13 PM

Thanks.

I'd run it as "prevent the new one" - just because the Windy Cherub moves around doesn't mean he's any less committed to whoever it is he's guarding.

(Oh, yes - I'd think a guardian of a puppet in a cricket vessel would go on about a conscience. "Cherub Cherub" sounds like something a frog would say. <g>)

Acolyte · 12-06-2009, 08:45 AM

(just a note, saying Cherub of the Wind would be more specific, rules-wise, for getting your question answered)

(That said,) I'd say it prevents a new attunement from forming, and if the Cherub attempted to attune to a new human as a way of getting out of his obligations to the previous one, that would be dissonant.

Archangel Beth · 12-07-2009, 08:52 AM

Sounds reasonable to me. You wanna break an attunement? You gotta roll.

GMs could house-rule otherwise, of course -- Wind is not easily constrained, so attuning to one person might just overwrite, harmlessly, the prior attunement. However, I would definitely rule that the Cherub cannot do this without dissonance if he hasn't situated his attuned in a safe place ahead of time. No ditching an inconvenient attuned at the motel and picking up someone new on the spur of the moment; you have to feel that Current Attuned is safe and well and not going to freak out when the attunement slips.

hcobb · 12-07-2009, 11:18 AM

So should Theft Stalkers have an easier ride of this?

Archangel Beth · 12-07-2009, 02:43 PM

I see no reason to go any easier on 'em, personally, than on the Windlings -- though they don't care about abandoning their attuned minions, they don't really have a Word that would let them have an easier time of <I>ditching</I> people. They're all about stealing and getting away from it, not escaping an attunement.

ISNorden · 12-10-2009, 10:56 PM

The smartest thing for a Wind Guardian to do, in order to avoid Dissonance from either his Choir or his Superior, is attune himself to a charge that travels with him--or one that can be reached very quickly from wherever he is. Ever wonder why so many Windies take Roles as members of a biker gang? ;-)

hcobb · 12-11-2009, 08:55 AM

So it's really not all that abuseable in either case to handshake whomever is holding the dingus? (Scenario shortcut time!)

12-05-2009, 07:52 PM	#1
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Wind Guardian limit question Does the Wind Guardian limit prevent the new attunement or does it just (silently?) drop the old one? And does a guardian of a puppet in a cricket vessel say: "Cherub Cherub"? __________________ -HJC

12-05-2009, 07:57 PM	#2
robkelk Untitled Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: between keyboard and chair	Re: Wind Guardian limit question I have no idea. What's a "Wind Guardian limit"? (Just because I own and have read all the books doesn't mean I remember every word in them...) __________________ Rob Kelk “Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.” – Bernard Baruch, Deming (New Mexico) Headlight, 6 January 1950 No longer reading these forums regularly.

12-05-2009, 08:05 PM	#3
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Wind Guardian limit question GIN92: "can only attune themselves to one human at a time" __________________ -HJC

12-05-2009, 08:13 PM	#4
robkelk Untitled Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: between keyboard and chair	Re: Wind Guardian limit question Thanks. I'd run it as "prevent the new one" - just because the Windy Cherub moves around doesn't mean he's any less committed to whoever it is he's guarding. (Oh, yes - I'd think a guardian of a puppet in a cricket vessel would go on about a conscience. "Cherub Cherub" sounds like something a frog would say. <g>) __________________ Rob Kelk “Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.” – Bernard Baruch, Deming (New Mexico) Headlight, 6 January 1950 No longer reading these forums regularly.

12-06-2009, 08:45 AM	#5
Acolyte Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Seattle	Re: Wind Guardian limit question (just a note, saying Cherub of the Wind would be more specific, rules-wise, for getting your question answered) (That said,) I'd say it prevents a new attunement from forming, and if the Cherub attempted to attune to a new human as a way of getting out of his obligations to the previous one, that would be dissonant. __________________ “The world is going to Hell in a hand-basket, but I’ve got Good News: I saved my soul by switching to Heaven.” —Baruel, former Djinn of the Media, now Cherub of Destiny and the Angel of Good News

12-07-2009, 08:52 AM	#6
Archangel Beth In Nomine Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Frozen Wastelands of NH	Re: Wind Guardian limit question Sounds reasonable to me. You wanna break an attunement? You gotta roll. GMs could house-rule otherwise, of course -- Wind is not easily constrained, so attuning to one person might just overwrite, harmlessly, the prior attunement. However, I would definitely rule that the Cherub cannot do this without dissonance if he hasn't situated his attuned in a safe place ahead of time. No ditching an inconvenient attuned at the motel and picking up someone new on the spur of the moment; you have to feel that Current Attuned is safe and well and not going to freak out when the attunement slips. __________________ --Beth Shamelessly adding Superiors: Lilith, GURPS Sparrials, and her fiction page to her .sig (the latter is not precisely gaming related)

12-07-2009, 11:18 AM	#7
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Wind Guardian limit question So should Theft Stalkers have an easier ride of this? __________________ -HJC

12-07-2009, 02:43 PM	#8
Archangel Beth In Nomine Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Frozen Wastelands of NH	Re: Wind Guardian limit question I see no reason to go any easier on 'em, personally, than on the Windlings -- though they don't care about abandoning their attuned minions, they don't really have a Word that would let them have an easier time of <I>ditching</I> people. They're all about stealing and getting away from it, not escaping an attunement. __________________ --Beth Shamelessly adding Superiors: Lilith, GURPS Sparrials, and her fiction page to her .sig (the latter is not precisely gaming related)

12-10-2009, 10:56 PM	#9
ISNorden Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Madison, WI	Re: Wind Guardian limit question The smartest thing for a Wind Guardian to do, in order to avoid Dissonance from either his Choir or his Superior, is attune himself to a charge that travels with him--or one that can be reached very quickly from wherever he is. Ever wonder why so many Windies take Roles as members of a biker gang? ;-) __________________ Ingeborg S. Nordén

12-11-2009, 08:55 AM	#10
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Wind Guardian limit question So it's really not all that abuseable in either case to handshake whomever is holding the dingus? (Scenario shortcut time!) __________________ -HJC