10-30-2010, 05:55 AM | #21 | |
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Re: [Magic] Casting trought item with powerstone
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"By" is defined as a sentient magic item casts a spell enchanted on it of it's own accord. "Through" is defined as a mage casts a spell enchanted on the item. For some reason I really don't think that was the intention of the distinction, as it's a bit of a stretch without being expressly stated as such, and I'm not even 100% certain that the distinction would be necessary even in this case. EDIT: Honestly, if the intention was that a Dedicated Powerstone could only be used to fuel spells enchanted on the item, why not instead simply say: "The item’s user may tap its energy – but only to power the spells enchanted on that item." Last edited by DreadPirateLynx; 10-30-2010 at 06:13 AM. |
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10-30-2010, 08:21 AM | #22 |
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Re: [Magic] Casting trought item with powerstone
[QUOTE=DreadPirateLynx;1070478]The problem I see is that if it was intended to adhere to Kromm's 3e ruling, then why wouldn't it have been made clear when 4e was published? The problem was obviously known since Kromm had to make an official ruling, and it wasn't a pure cut & paste job as the text changed slightly. The only options are that it was an intentional change, or that it was overlooked yet again. Even with the problems Magic has, I like to give SJG more credit than that.
[QUOTE] You probably shouldn't. Very few of the minor changes to Magic 4e appear to have been done for rules reasons. The only thing I can think of off-hand is the forbiddance of using Draw Power on Created Fuel. The rest appear to have been made for mundane reasons of grammar and flow with virtually no consideration (or possibly understanding) of rules impact. There was essentially no clean-up of known issues and some new issues relating to cost, effect and Size Modifier appear to have been introduced.
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10-31-2010, 05:02 AM | #23 |
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Re: [Magic] Casting trought item with powerstone
I think it's pretty clear that it's only for powering enchantments. Otherwise you can enchant your Powerstone while it's sitting in a bowl of custard and say it's Dedicated to that bowl of custard, then proceed to cast all your spells "through" that bowl of custard so you can draw on the Powerstone at double efficiency. If you ever get tired of doing so, you can take it out of the custard and voila, it's a regular Powerstone again.
Obviously there are logistical issues with carrying around a bowl of custard, but it's just an example. There's no reason you couldn't achieve the same result with a necklace, crown, cravat, whatever. |
10-31-2010, 05:18 AM | #24 |
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Re: [Magic] Casting trought item with powerstone
If you enchant your bowl of custard, necklace, crown, cravat, or whatever with the Staff spell and use it to cast your spells through, which is in genre, then it is what it is.
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10-31-2010, 05:27 AM | #25 |
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Re: [Magic] Casting trought item with powerstone
No, it's ridiculous (not because you're using a bowl of custard as magical materia, that's perfectly reasonable) but because there's NO REASON NOT TO DO IT. There is NO reason not to make EVERY Powerstone dedicated this way.
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10-31-2010, 05:31 AM | #26 | |
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In fact, while I can think of numerous settings where power items are used to cast magic through, I can't off the top of my head think of a single setting where a mage carries around a jewel bag with individual stones used to power their magic. |
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10-31-2010, 05:33 AM | #27 | |
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10-31-2010, 05:40 AM | #28 | |
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Which is way more in genre than having magical batteries arranged about yourself giving you access to energy for some random reason. Why can't you see that your usage of random powerstones unconnected to power items is blatantly a specific half-brewed setting and not generic in any way? |
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10-31-2010, 05:51 AM | #29 | |
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10-31-2010, 06:39 AM | #30 | |
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Generic and Universal In other words, when you're casting Smoke you can cast it through your wand to use the wand's Dedicated energy, but when you're casting Blink to 'port out of the way of incoming missile fire you're tapping into the power fetish around your neck with its undedicated energy. |
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