09-09-2017, 03:06 PM | #11 | |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
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I remember one where my mom told me it took place during one of the Chinese invasion of Korea. When the Chinese were wearing robes and had long hair instead of that pigtail thing the Manchurians made them style their hair in. Last edited by warellis; 09-09-2017 at 03:16 PM. |
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09-10-2017, 12:34 PM | #12 | |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
Wuxia isn't a hard and strict historical timeframe, these days, so much as a cinematic and storytelling convention. It has at its heart a wandering hero archtype, often with troubled ethical or moral norms, and feats of physical or mystical ability. It arose in multiple periods, most commonly with either a time of foreign invasion or civic unrest, when tales of roving bandits and brave bands of heroes would have been feasible in the absence of a strong central government. (Or, as in the case of Xiyouji, a long way from the Imperial center, where the bandits, monsters, and demons could skulk forth and harass the hero.)
Historically, the xia themselves could even be said to have predated Qinshihuang. The assassin, Jing Ke, who famously attempted to kill Yingzheng before he became the famous First Emperor of China, has been characterized as a xia hero. And of course anybody who's familiar with the modern Chinese martial soap operas will see that "heroes of the resistance" TV dramas are often set in the safely pre-1949 movements against Qing/Manchu or against the Japanese. I echo Fred Brackin that the actual Western-calendar dates can be safely ignored if you want to run a general wuxia campaign. Some Martial Arts, some Chinese Elemental Magic, and some historical flavor from GURPS China (plus Low Tech and Action) would be enough to capture Sun Wukong and his hijinks. Quote:
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09-10-2017, 01:04 PM | #13 |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
I'm not actually sure that's the case. Sun Wukong often impresses me as a high-end superhero.
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09-10-2017, 05:29 PM | #14 | |
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09-10-2017, 07:48 PM | #15 |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
This is exactly the kind of stuff I would like to have with the new Dungeon Fantasy game, a non European setting where you have quick rules to create characters and treasures and monsters that fit the setting. A Dungeon Fantasy: Mythic China would be useful for both people who want to play high fantasy China and also the typical GURPS DF gonzo megadungeon people who would just use the treasures and monsters for new stuff to stick in their dungeons.
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09-10-2017, 11:40 PM | #16 |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
I recommend this book. A lot of the powers are ridiculous (if you want subtle, quasi-plausible martial arts powers, this is not the book for you, though I should note, in fairness, that many of the Internal powers could slip into a semi-realistic martial arts game without causing too many waves), but if you want cool fantasy powers consistent with both the Daoist worldview and that, you know, feel like fantasy powers, then this is perfect. Pair it with Martial Arts, and you're good to go. I'd also add either Fantasy or Dungeon Fantasy, if I wanted to move quickly.
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09-11-2017, 12:04 AM | #17 |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
House of Flying Daggers is set in the Tang Dynasty (in 859 CE).
There are a few that take place much earlier, before there technically was a China: Little Big Soldier takes place during the Qin Conquest at the end of the Warring States period, so about 800 years before the Tang Dynasty. Hero is in the early Qin Dynasty, with the attempted assassination in 227 BCE of the King of Qin. |
09-11-2017, 02:27 AM | #18 |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
This genre is a particular favorite of mine so I proffer this advice...
Basic Set and Martial Arts are your indispensable backbone, but if your goal is the truly over-the-top action of the Monkey King, I very strongly recommend you also use Powers (or, at the bare extra minimum, Thaumatology: Chinese Elemental Powers). The abilities routinely displayed by Sun Wukong and his many adversaries are vastly greater than what can be easily and accurately modeled with cinematic skills. Sun Wukong isn't a wuxia hero, he is a god, and he fought other gods in the form of various extremely powerful demons. What you've referenced as your inspiration isn't wuxia; that genre, while certainly featuring supernatural elements, is much more "earthed" with (for lack of better words at the moment) a "dirtier/grittier" feel. What you've referenced has come to be called xianxia, and it routinely features characters with astounding (and usually very flashy) magical powers (see Ice Fantasy on Netflix for an example). Here's an easy (though not infallible) way to differentiate the two: how do you see the PCs routinely traveling around the setting? If they walk or ride almost everywhere, probably wuxia. If they vault from cloud to cloud, probably xianxia. If they teleport, definitely xianxia. I recommend 400-point characters (the Monster Hunters baseline) though 500- and even 1,000-point characters would look and feel "normal" in-genre (again, using Sun Wukong as the measuring stick). Anything less would feel underpowered and probably be clunky to build if based on cinematic skills instead of powers. Example: Rather than spending 44 points to get Power Blow at Will+10 so you can use it instantaneously at Will, then spending 1 point to get the "No Nuisance Rolls" perk so you don't have to roll at all at 16+, then spending another 1 point to get a "Rules Exemption" perk so you can use "No Nuisance Rolls" on a combat skill in combat (and we're not counting the 120 points you spent to get IQ 16 in the first place)... You can just spend 45 points to get Striking ST +10 with the "chi, -10%" power modifier (with GM permission, of course). Regardless of how you get it done, I wish you much enjoyment in doing it!
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09-11-2017, 08:10 AM | #19 | |
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09-11-2017, 02:34 PM | #20 |
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Re: Chinese Fantasy
No offense but wouldn't it be better to watch Chinese stuff about Chinese fantasy?
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