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Old 02-13-2020, 07:26 PM   #1
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Default A bow can't benefit from Arm ST (One Arm), right?

Just checking to make sure. It's a two-handed weapon, so I assume not, but I thought there was at least a chance it might work differently.
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:05 PM   #2
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By RAW, yeah, One Arm ST doesn't help with using a bow. Realistically, you can probably get away with a bit of disparity there, as it's easier to simply keep your weak arm extended while drawing back with your strong arm. I probably wouldn't allow more than a 2 ST (for +1 damage) difference, though - go beyond that, and your weak arm can't hold the bow while your strong arm is pulling it back.
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:27 AM   #3
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Default Re: A bow can't benefit from Arm ST (One Arm), right?

IIRC real-world military archers tend to have one stronger arm than the other.
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:31 AM   #4
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IIRC real-world military archers tend to have one stronger arm than the other.
But archers that use the extremely high poundage bows use their backs to do the work. Isn't this what Strongbow perk is meant for?
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Old 02-14-2020, 06:08 AM   #5
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But archers that use the extremely high poundage bows use their backs to do the work. Isn't this what Strongbow perk is meant for?
Arms don't exist in a vacuum. A lot of the muscles we think of as contributing to 'Arm ST' are actually located outside the arm itself, like the front and back torso.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:18 AM   #6
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Arms? Where we're going, we don't need arms
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:23 AM   #7
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Default Re: A bow can't benefit from Arm ST (One Arm), right?

Actually, now that I think about it, part of the way the book phrases Arm ST is "If a task requires multiple hands, and they don’t have the same ST, use the average ST." Would that include attacks with two-handed weapons? I could see it going either way.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:39 AM   #8
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But archers that use the extremely high poundage bows use their backs to do the work. Isn't this what Strongbow perk is meant for?
The Strongbow Perk is probably meant to be a form of developed aptitude. That would be why it's linked to Skill level. Those with Strongow have enough experience in using bows that they know the best way to do things.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:03 AM   #9
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Actually, now that I think about it, part of the way the book phrases Arm ST is "If a task requires multiple hands, and they don’t have the same ST, use the average ST." Would that include attacks with two-handed weapons? I could see it going either way.
That seems like a fair compromise.

When I think of a bow, don't you normally have the hand holding it locked so it's basically the pulling strength of the string-hand which uses the entire range of motion and most of the muscle?

It's way easier to lock out a weight than to pull it, just compare short-RoM bench press lockouts to 1-arm rows. The "Renegade Row" is a good example of that, because someone rows a DB with 1 arm while the other arm supports not just that DB's weight but also the weight of the body.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:05 AM   #10
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I don't have a link to the post, but Kromm mentioned that it would go off Striking ST.
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