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Old 10-11-2018, 08:39 AM   #1
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Default In what ways in Kiai an attack?

I'm part of a pbp martial arts tournament game* and Kiai is both very useful but also a touch perplexing to use.


1) Does evaluate add to kiai skill? what about to its defense? we are using the countering feints and deceptive attacks rule from martial arts 100.
2) Is kiai an unarmed skill? I'm particularly asking to know if trained by a master lets you kiai and then attack traditionally at -3 for each.


We're trying to play extremely RAW here.


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Old 10-11-2018, 08:43 AM   #2
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Trained by a Master halves the Rapid Strike penalty for all attacks, not just unarmed attacks.

You can rapid strike with one of your attacks being a Kiai. If you have TbaM, both attacks are at -3 instead of at -6.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:53 AM   #3
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Trained by a Master halves the Rapid Strike penalty for all attacks, not just unarmed attacks.

Not quite. It says "all your unarmed combat skills and melee weapon skills". Guns doesn't seem to get this bonus, but I'm not sure about Kiai.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:33 AM   #4
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I'm part of a pbp martial arts tournament game* and Kiai is both very useful but also a touch perplexing to use.


1) Does evaluate add to kiai skill? what about to its defense? we are using the countering feints and deceptive attacks rule from martial arts 100.
2) Is kiai an unarmed skill? I'm particularly asking to know if trained by a master lets you kiai and then attack traditionally at -3 for each.
Interesting question.
I would say Evaluate does not add to Kiai but could to the resistance roll as your better prepared for it, including the timing.
Using the same logic I can see Deceptive Attack as throwing off your foes concentration and preparedness so would allow that too.
I would class it as an unarmed combat skill since it requires an Attack maneuver to use, not a Concentrate.

I really would like an official answer here though
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:02 PM   #5
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Official answer:
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=156047

Also: It's an attack, it's an attack without a weapon, it's an unarmed attack.
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