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Old 10-10-2018, 03:21 PM   #1
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Default Statting the Double-barreled bolt-action rifle

Yes, it's real (and has a cool locking mechanism), there's a video on it from Forgotten Weapons. Please try not to laugh to hard at the designer's and manufacturer's names (Szecsei & Fuchs), they probably aren't pronounced the way many English-speakers would think.

Obviously, the damage statistics would vary by caliber, but the rest would mostly be similar (save for the miniature versions, that use .117 and .22).

Also, one of the YouTube commenters suggested that the bolt, once removed, is substantial enough to use as a melee weapon, and I think they may be right.
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:26 PM   #2
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Yes, it's real (and has a cool locking mechanism), there's a video on it from Forgotten Weapons. Please try not to laugh to hard at the designer's and manufacturer's names (Szecsei & Fuchs), they probably aren't pronounced the way many English-speakers would think.

Obviously, the damage statistics would vary by caliber, but the rest would mostly be similar (save for the miniature versions, that use .117 and .22).
The weight is probably the biggest drawback, aside from the fact that it's a specially, high-end rifle (eg, stupid expensive).

As a sidenote, I think a very similar weapon could appear in a Steampunk campaign, although it would almost certainly use a fixed magazine.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:36 PM   #3
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Cooooool.

I always love weird weapons...
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:45 PM   #4
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Cooooool.

I always love weird weapons...
About a year and a half ago, he covered a custom pre-WWI gun that was an 8mm Mauser modified with a pivoting 16g shotgun barrel under the rifle barrel. Weight was ~10 lbs (~4.5 kg).
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:02 PM   #5
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I kind of liked the AN-94 as well. Is uses a cable and a pulley for chrissakes.

At the other end of the spectrum, want to know what I love as an example of elegant functional simplicity? The PPS-43.
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About a year and a half ago, he covered a custom pre-WWI gun that was an 8mm Mauser modified with a pivoting 16g shotgun barrel under the rifle barrel. Weight was ~10 lbs (~4.5 kg).
That //sounds// like a fairly normal combination gun ... or am I missing something?
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That //sounds// like a fairly normal combination gun ... or am I missing something?
Unlike normal combination guns, the rifle is not a single-shot breech-loader. It's a bit like the concept of the M16 with an underbarrel 12g, but for hunting.


https://www.forgottenweapons.com/a-u...mbination-gun/
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Unlike normal combination guns, the rifle is not a single-shot breech-loader. It's a bit like the concept of the M16 with an underbarrel 12g, but for hunting.


https://www.forgottenweapons.com/a-u...mbination-gun/
Ah, right ... I'm guessing that's probably one of the earliest examples of the type then, albeit not an actual ancestor of anything alive today. Makes me wonder why the combination gun failed to evolve like that actually...
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Ah, right ... I'm guessing that's probably one of the earliest examples of the type then, albeit not an actual ancestor of anything alive today. Makes me wonder why the combination gun failed to evolve like that actually...
My guess is that they are more expensive and labor-intensive than a two or three barrel breech-loader, and the perceived usefulness of the bolt-action didn't offset the two downsides.

Back to the OP: I can give you my 3e guesstimate, which you can convert to 4e

.416 Remington Magnum bolt action double rifle

Malf: Crit
Dam: 10d+
SS: 14
Acc: 8
1/2Dam: 250
Max: 2,100
Wt: 12
AWt: 1
RoF: 2
Shots: 2+6
ST: 13
Rcl: -4
Hold: -8
Cost: ? (Probably $10,000+)

* RoF assumes two unfired chambered rounds. Loading fresh rounds from the magazine is RoF 1/2.
* 1/2Dam range was based on listed effective range, and was close to the VE2 calculated number. Max Range was completely calculated with VE2.
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Old 10-14-2018, 12:05 PM   #10
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My guess is that they are more expensive and labor-intensive than a two or three barrel breech-loader, and the perceived usefulness of the bolt-action didn't offset the two downsides.

Back to the OP: I can give you my 3e guesstimate, which you can convert to 4e
Cool. Thank you.
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