"A Song of Ice and Fire" characters

[Langy]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

OK, I gave Clegane higher HT, a couple levels of both Fearlessness and Hard to Subdue, and High Pain Threshold, added Tywin Lannister as a patron, and worsened his Bloodlust.

Where can I find rules for cutting someone in half? Clegane is said to be capable of it with his sword, and I want to know if his 4d+3 swing damage is enough to accomplish it on the first swing against a perfectly average person.

Cutting someone in half, similarly to cutting off someone's neck, is just a special effect of killing someone in a single blow with a cutting attack. Clegane can totally do so; he averages 28 points of injury, which will 1-hit kill an average person 50% of the time.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Where can I find rules for cutting someone in half?

There are none. However, in reality it's apparently possible for a human to survive being cut in half, depending on where the cut is:

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

I read a Work Comp case of a longshoreman who lost his lower body above the hips to a snapped mooring line, didn't lose any "vital" organs and lived for a dozen plus years after that.

Colostomy bags are not a good thing though.

This would mean the minimum injury required to cut someone in half is less than 6XHP; since it's almost certainly fatal though, I'd call it more than 5XHP, and the vitals bleeding rules from Martial Arts should be used. The victim should aquire stuff like Legless [-30]; Wounded [-5], Chronic Pain etc...

Against 10HP; 10 HT:

After rolling damage and subtracting DR you need a damage of 34, multiple that by 1.5 for cutting that gets you to 51 points of damage. With HT 10 the victim has a 6.25% chance of being alive, a 12.04% chance of being alive but mortallly wounded (odds of surviving being mortally wounded without medical aid and HT 10 are about 3.57%) and a 81.71% chance of being dead. Assuming you aren't dead, you'd then be rolling for bleeding every 30 seconds at -4 for location, -10 for injury size, total -14:

3-4: Stop Bleeding
5: Lose 1hp
6-18: Lose 3 HP

Meaning you have an 86.74% chance of bleeding to death in the first 90 seconds.

Assuming you don't die of bleeding or being mortally wounded, you have to roll HT to recover from being unconscious, fail this roll (50%) and you're in a coma.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Langy

Cutting someone in half, similarly to cutting off someone's neck, is just a special effect of killing someone in a single blow with a cutting attack. Clegane can totally do so; he averages 28 points of injury, which will 1-hit kill an average person 50% of the time.

Probability of survival rolls at negative HP:

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

HT10:
________OK______________Mortal___________Dead
-1XHP____50.0000000000%____24.0740740741%___25.9259 259259%
_________108_______________52_______________56____ _______________216
__________________________________________________ __________216

-2XHP____25.0000000000%____24.0740740741%_____50.92 59259259%
_________11,664_____________11,232_____________23, 760______________46,656
__________________________________________________ __________216^2

-3XHP____12.5000000000%____18.0555555556%_____69.44 44444444%
_________1,259,712__________1,819,584___________6, 998,400___________10,077,696
__________________________________________________ __________216^3

-4XHP____6.2500000000%____12.0370370370%%_____81.71 29629630%
_________136,048,896_______262,020,096___________1 ,778,713,344_______2,176,782,336
__________________________________________________ __________216^4

[Aneirin]

Spoiler:  

The mountain [I]may[I] need the advantage Extra Life....with quite a few disadvantages attached to that, such as secret, cannot speak...and who knows what else! (I'm looking at you Green knight)

[Langy]

Right; forgot about mortal wounds. *shrug* Just consider those the times when you luckily survive the bisecting like you mentioned earlier;)

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Langy

Right; forgot about mortal wounds. *shrug* Just consider those the times when you luckily survive the bisecting like you mentioned earlier;)

He's likely to use AoA:Strong when he's cutting a dude in half. So that's 4d+7. 4d+8 (or maybe +11; if that's actually supposed to be a /die bonus) while mounted.

[Langy]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

He's likely to use AoA:Strong when he's cutting a dude in half. So that's 4d+7. 4d+8 (or maybe +11; if that's actually supposed to be a /die bonus) while mounted.

AoA: Strong is +2 or +1 per die, whichever is higher. That makes it 4d+9, rather than 4d+5. That should bring him up over the 30 injury mark, allowing him to killinate an average foe 50% of the time in a single blow.

[cosmicfish]

Originally Posted by Gold & Appel Inc

Duty, yes, but Tywin throws him right under the bus the second it's more convenient than keeping him around.

I would just consider that part of the "frequency of appearance" modifier - no Patron helps you 100% of the time, and structurally "won't help" is the same as "can't help".

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Langy

AoA: Strong is +2 or +1 per die, whichever is higher. That makes it 4d+9, rather than 4d+5. That should bring him up over the 30 injury mark, allowing him to killinate an average foe 50% of the time in a single blow.

I thought the base damage was 4d+3, that's what you said earlier.

Anyway, I know that. The damage bonus for Calvary Weapons is only +1, though and it doesn't specify it as a per/die bonus. I don't see why it shouldn't be though, honestly.

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I think I'm going to rebuild The Mountain from the ground up,

Spoiler:  

I think Qyburn already beat you too that. :)

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by Langy

Cutting someone in half, similarly to cutting off someone's neck, is just a special effect of killing someone in a single blow with a cutting attack. Clegane can totally do so; he averages 28 points of injury, which will 1-hit kill an average person 50% of the time.

I'd say it's more like killing them instantly without an HT roll, so enough damage to take them down to -5*HP.